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Looking to buy a weatherby vanguard 300 mag syntetic....want to know peoples opinoins on the gun. I also have been reading up on it..can you buy amo over the counter for this gun or do you have to load your own. I am new at the gun thing and dont want to load my own cartriges. If i do buy amo over the counter what do people recommend for this gun. Looking to moose hunt with it, but i want to be accurate aswell.

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Guns a full size job, and in that cal its gonna be a bit more weight.
300 mag , no matter which one(weatherby/winchester), is costly over the counter. And components are gonna run you a bit more for weatherby. I give the gun a 6 out of 10
 
How much experience do you have shooting centerfire rifles? Especially ones of similar recoil to a .300 mag?

.300's are not unbearable to shoot, but if you have little to no experience with recoil of that class, they may cause you to develop a flinch.

You do not need a .300 to kill moose, there are many lighter kicking guns that will do the job as well.

As to ammo, .300 Weatherby Magnum ammo is expensive to buy, and brass is not cheap to handload it either. .300 Win mag is much less expensive to buy factory ammo for, or to purchase brass for handloading.

Vanguards are gnerally thought of as being a decent rifle.
 
I used a .300 Win Mag. for yrs.
Note: the heavier the rifle, the lighter the felt and perceived recoil.

Ex. take a lightwgt. 'mountain rifle'.....great for carrying all day but you can't have range shooting fun..too light during the rest of the yr.

Unless you intend to walk all day, and do map and compass work for moose, wgt. doesn't matter to me and I'm 55 yrs. of age. A good sling helps and if you intend to just walk in to your 'watch' or boat or canoe or ATV in, then light isn't an issue!

Many synthetic stock guys end up adding weight to the gun, mixing epoxy glue and lead shot and filling in 'empty spots' in the forearm and stock so that recoil is more manageable.

Good luck.
 
Hi, l had one in 300 weatherby, nice accurate rifle, ammo avaiable over the counter, but more expensive than smaller calibers.
l switched because l wanted a drop out magazine, not available at that time.
l now shoot a 270, {Tikka T3}, nice weight, pleasure to shoot, a lot less recoil, took 2 real nice Bulls with it. That's all you really need, but of course it's all up to you.
 
It seems that there are a lot of new shooters out there that want to buy a rifle that might be too much for the average joe in terms of recoil.

my predictions... you will not like the recoil at all.

It's going to be your hunting rifle and I believe it's imperative that you practice with it A LOT. extra cost of mag ammo + recoil + "new" shooter = less range time.

Have you considered a .308, .270 or better yet a .30-06?
 
Weatherby Vanguards are nive and failry standard hunting rifles. I prefer the feel and bolt of the 700 myself, but they are good guns. I agree with the others here that you shouldn't get a 300 mag if you are new at this, unless of course you have extensive experience shooting a friend's.

30-06 is where it is at. Best of all worlds.
 
I have owned a Weatherby Vanguard Synthetic ( in 30-06 ) and found it to be a good quality ( made in Japan if I recall correctly by Howa (?) ) and very accurate rifle. I thought the synthetic stock to be superior to the entry-level Remington, Savage and Ruger offerings and found the action to be smooth (not quite as nice as Remington though )and the finishing to be above average. It was a tad heavy for hunting ( as a day wears on, the extra 1 lb gets heavier ) but overall a good rifle that was very good value for the money ( $530 or so ). I sold this particular one to a buddy - who still loves it and shoots it regular. I liked the Weatherby product and upgraded ( cosmetically ) to the Vanguard de-luxe in the same caliber ( beautiful finish but not such good value as the price is much higher than the synthetic model ). So there is my 0.2c re the rifle.

Regarding the calibre, I concur with the views of others here. IMO that 300 win mag is a powerhouse cartridge that doesn't really allow for enjoyable shooting sessions - ergo, it is hard to get good if practicing is tiring/painful. Ammo and components are also more expensive. My recommendation for cartridge would be either of .270 or 30-06 with a shade of preference for the latter if moose is being sought out.
 
I got vanguard 300winmag. and it kicks a lot less than my nephews savage,
same cal. same ammo. I love the stock, go for it....
 
hunter.d said:
Hi, l had one in 300 weatherby, nice accurate rifle, ammo avaiable over the counter, but more expensive than smaller calibers.
l switched because l wanted a drop out magazine, not available at that time.
l now shoot a 270, {Tikka T3}, nice weight, pleasure to shoot, a lot less recoil, took 2 real nice Bulls with it. That's all you really need, but of course it's all up to you.
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Ditto there hunter.d! Unless you're planning to snipe moose from beyond 650yd, a .270 is a very versitile flat shooting calibre that will cost you from $1 to $2 a shot for factory ammo, depending on the quality of the load.
A .270 win with good ammo has 10% more energy at 1000yd than a .300win mag with crappy ammo!
I picked up a Tikka T3 S/S in .270win with an eye to hunting moose within 600yd. and sniping milk jugs at a grand. Put a limbsaver recoil pad on it, and you'll think you're shooting a really loud .22:sniper:
 
My Vanguard's a little .243 and it needed a Timney to make it shoot really well, stock trigger was s***. My .300 Mag OTOH is only 6 1/2 lbs and loaded to the teeth with TSX's, 150's and 165's will whack me just over the left eyebrow at least once every 3-shot group on the bench. It likes to make sure I'm paying attention. Knowing it's coming and still shooting little wee groups takes some intestinal fortitude and not a recommended practice routine. The .30-06 is arguably the greatest caliber ever and perfectly capable of doing what you're looking for not to mention probably the most common factory ammo available anywhere from the Amazon to the Arctic Circle. You simply can't go wrong with it and every rifle manufacturer imaginable chambers rifles for it. With a premium 180 gr bullet it's one hell of a moose killer that won't kick you into next week.
 
Maybe try a 7mm rem mag. less recoil but still has a lot of energy. 270 is an awsome cal to and if you really want a magnum i've heard a few good thing about the 270 WSM.
 
.300 Mag

.300 Win Mag is what I shoot and everything about it is a great. 150 grain for deer and 180 for bears and elk. Deadly.... Have you thought about a muzzle break? My buddy went from a Savage .300 Win Mag with muzzle break to a Vanguard .300 WSM without. Loves the gun but he hates shooting it, causes him much anxiety. Kicks hard and too much jump for a quick second shot if required. With the BOSS on my .300 the kick/recoil is hardly noticeable. Use earplugs at the range and in the field you will be so jacked up you won't notice the ringing in your ear. Shooting Win Supreme it will cost you $0.55 a round or $11.00 a box more than 30-06. With what it costs to get out hunting for a week, $11.00 is the least of your worries. Think about carrying the same caliber as your hunting buddies. Makes things very easy in the field if anyone is short ammo, leaves it in the truck, on their quad or in camp etc..

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