Need Help. CR Speed Holster question for HK USP Match

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My HK USP Match has a barrel weight that encroaches slightly into the trigger guard. While CR Speed makes a holster for the HK USP series, and while the Match apparently has the same trigger guard, the weight might be a problem. I'm not sure how they mount to the trigger guard, so can anyone tell me if it will be a problem? I'm also looking at a Speedsec 5. If anyone can provide opinions on the Speedsec5 versus the old style (Pre WSMII) CR Speed, that would also be appreciated. I have inlcuded pictures for reference. The barrel on the Match is 6.02" and the overall length is 9.45". The barrel weight is the same width as the slide.

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The Speedsec won't work either...

My guess is that you'll figure out in pretty short order, that you don'r need or want that big weight a the end of your gun...

I'm not sure what you will find that could accomodate it...may a Custom job from Larouque (probably spelled his name wrong)

What Division are you planning on shooting in?
 
The CR Speed will not work at all with the USP Match. your best bet is the Speedsec, but even that may/ WILL require altering of the holster.

You are planning to use this in Standard? If you want to add weight, get a jet funnel/ magwell.
I wish you luck......
 
maurice said:
The CR Speed will not work at all with the USP Match. your best bet is the Speedsec, but even that may/ WILL require altering of the holster.

You are planning to use this in Standard? If you want to add weight, get a jet funnel/ magwell.
I wish you luck......
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I expect this gun is Open Division only...

IPSC Box rule for Standard

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A handgun in it’s ready condition (See Section 8.1), but unloaded and with an empty magazine inserted, must fit wholly within the confines of a box which has internal dimensions of 225mm x 150mm x 45mm (tolerance of +1 mm, -0 mm). Note that all magazines must comply, failing which Rule 6.2.5.1 will apply.

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There's no way it's going to fit. 225 mm is about 8.85 inches...

No good for Prod either...
 
Everyone seemed to think it would fit. In the meantime, I will shoot and just not qualify for scoring. I am told that would be okay until I decide to get a different gun. Still need a holster though... :)
 
Riflman said:
Everyone seemed to think it would fit. In the meantime, I will shoot and just not qualify for scoring. I am told that would be okay until I decide to get a different gun. Still need a holster though... :)
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If it doesn't fit in the box...you'll automatically get put into Open...so you will shoot for score...no biggy...you seem to have the right attitude about everything...:)

Honestly, I think you're looking at a cutom made leather holster

people really swear by this guy... http://www.geocities.com/larocheleathers/
 
Is this a 9mm? It appears so in your picture. I would just use a regular barrel, and use it in Production. I use a regular Custom sport in Production with a Speedsec Holster. You can also use DOH Blade tech. Get a Bladetech (use any money you saved instead of the Speedsec towards a new barrel. Or get used USP and swap barrels, and keep the used one for extra parts.
 
maurice said:
Is this a 9mm? It appears so in your picture. I would just use a regular barrel, and use it in Production.
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I'd check with NROI Canada and/or Vince Pinto on that...

It may be OK...it looks like it's just a USP that has had modifications. If it started out as a USP, you should be able to swap out the barrel to return it to Factory Form.

I'll send the question to NROI Canada and post the results

Cheers
 
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Custom sport 9mm barrel and regular 9mm barrel are the same as far as I can tell. I think the "match" is the longer barrel and weight added to a Custom Sport. They are both 9mm barrels.
the good thing about HK USP's are the number of Variants you can have, as well as switching parts to make different variants.
IE; if he had a regular USP Variant 1, and added the factory option tuning package (match trigger and sights), it would then become a Custom sport; which is available in 9mm, .40. (.45 is available, but conversion may not be possible, as the .45 frame is larger)
*All USP's are available with tritium sights in three dot configuration.
*Conversion kits are available for all USP's to convert from one 9mm to .40, from Expert to Elite, to Stainless, to match sights to jet funnel or no Jet funnel (no JF for Production though):(
I performed the LEM Conversion on my first USP, so it is now a DAO.
My Custom Sport may become a stainless, as the USP stainless can have the Tuning package of Match Trigger and sights as an option.:cool:

My current USP 9mm Custom Sport is also now a variant #3, no external safety; the lever is for decocking only

here is a link; http://www.heckler-kochjs.de/defaul...lJmhlYWRlclBpYz1oZWFkZXJfYWt0dWVsbGVzLmpwZw==

Check the accessories page, The tuning package is only listed on the German Language site. The details of the conversion kits is listed after details is clicked for each pistol.

I hope this is usefull for anyone with questions about conversions.;), as well as factory options.
 
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...feedback from NROI Canada...

If this gun started out as a USP, and the weight and barrel are just add ons...reverting back to a USP would be Production Legal...

If this thing is sold as is under the lable "USP Match" it is not on th eapproved list and not legal in Prod.
 
Quigley said:
...feedback from NROI Canada...

If this gun started out as a USP, and the weight and barrel are just add ons...reverting back to a USP would be Production Legal...

If this thing is sold as is under the lable "USP Match" it is not on th eapproved list and not legal in Prod.
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Thanks Craig,that is what I think as well. I know the Match are not sold anymore, nor are the parts. I can't see Match on the Slide, i "think" that real match designated pistols had it written on the slide?

If I were to use a Match USP in open, I would most likely wear my Laura Croft oufit.:p
 
Hi guys.

It came from the factory as a USP Match in 9mm. It was not another variant and changed over. It has a polygonal barrel, recoil reduction system just like the others, but has a match trigger, click adjustable target sights (but not dots or fibre optic) and has the weight preinstalled. It's set up as SA/DA and has a safetty plus a decocker. I think a plastic holster that grips the gun would draw faster fixed to the belt than as a dropped offset don't you think??

It is registered as a USP Match by the feds, came with a USP Manual and a second addendum type manual in german only that says USP Match. It also came with a hard Case and says USP Match on the test target from HK. I bought it off this list and it is supposed to be a legit factory USP Match in 9mm.
 
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OK, but does it say "Match" on the slide or frame? If it does not, I don't see the problem with taking off the Barrel, Barrel weight, and buying a new HK 9mm regular size barrel. If would be identical to a USP Custom sport.
 
USP "Match"

maurice said:
OK, but does it say "Match" on the slide or frame? If it does not, I don't see the problem with taking off the Barrel, Barrel weight, and buying a new HK 9mm regular size barrel. If would be identical to a USP Custom sport.
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I can't believe you actually gave Riflman that advice. Especially after Quigley went to the trouble of getting the "official" word from NROI Canada on this pistol. It was deemed "Not Production Legal" by NROI Canada yet you go ahead and give him totally opposite advice anyway.

Before Riflman runs off and purchases a new barrel for that H&K "USP Match" pistol, and then spends a lot of money travelling to say a National Match somewhere, he needs to know this. If, at a match, it is found that the serial number of that pistol is in fact from a run of H&K "USP Match" pistols, then he will most certainly be bumped out of Production Division.

Since you're telling him this is all ok, are you willing to pay what he'll have spent on match fees and travel expenses because of the bad advice you gave him? I doubt it.

Riflman...... save your money and go with the "official" decision of NROI Canada.
 
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Riflman said:
Hi guys.

It came from the factory as a USP Match in 9mm. It was not another variant and changed over. It has a polygonal barrel, recoil reduction system just like the others, but has a match trigger, click adjustable target sights (but not dots or fibre optic) and has the weight preinstalled. It's set up as SA/DA and has a safetty plus a decocker. I think a plastic holster that grips the gun would draw faster fixed to the belt than as a dropped offset don't you think??

It is registered as a USP Match by the feds, came with a USP Manual and a second addendum type manual in german only that says USP Match. It also came with a hard Case and says USP Match on the test target from HK. I bought it off this list and it is supposed to be a legit factory USP Match in 9mm.
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Then it's a no go for Prod :(

I say take of the weight...slap in a new barrell, a fiber Optic site and a Magwell and shoot Standard (in Minor) :cool:

I hope all this isn't turing you off...it's just the Production Division is really in its' infancy (as far as growth) and these issues need to work themselves out...

Cheers
 
Quigley said:
I say take of the weight...slap in a new barrell, a fiber Optic site and a Magwell and shoot Standard (in Minor) :cool:
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Ah hell, if I have to do that I may as well keep the gun virgin and buy another one. It's supposedly a collector piece anyway. :rolleyes:
 
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