Need help finding supplies

[Devineus]

Hey everyone,


I am looking for web pages or phone numbers for stores that sell reloading supplies for Shotguns.


I also have an odd question,

I want to make my own brass sabot shotgun shells without paying $60 for a box of 5. So I was thinking, can you use bullets used for black powder rifles as a slug for a shotgun round?

If the calibers are the same (.50) or below (.45), would it not work? if I used 3" shells with a sabot wad?

Has anyone tried anything like this? or would it just end up blowing my gun up?



The link below is an example of the kind of bullet I would want to try.
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/t...gle&cm_pla=black powder bullets&cm_ite=netcon

 

[sunray]

Those are for muzzle loaders. There are sabotted slugs for shotguns though. Made for rifled barrels mostly. Where you are matters too. Shipping components, especially slugs, is expensive.

 

[trevj]

Coupla things.

First. BUY A RELOADING MANUAL! One for shotgun shells. More so than for rifle and handgun cases, small changes in components (like trying to use safe load info with a case other than the one that the load was developed for) can have a major impact on the safety of your reloads.

Second. Buy a couple more reloading manuals!

Put your location into your profile, too. You might be living right next door to a good source, or you might not be. If you want good advice, provide good info, as well as ask well thought out questions.

$60 a box of five??? They saw you coming, or you did not ask for the stuff you needed or wanted, or they just wanted you to go away. Where did that number come from?

Lee sells a slug mold for the "rifled" type slug,sorta dome shaped, to be cast of lead. Maybe look at Ballistic Products site to see if anyone offers sabots for use in rifled barrels, with a Brenneke style slug.
The stuff you linked to is for black powder type shooting. Wrong size to fit a 12G barrel. Won't work well unless it fits, and is used in a rifled barrel.


Cheers
Trev

 

[mooncoon]

Near as I can make out you seem to be talking about making your own sabots and using large caliber rifle slugs in a smooth bore barrel. I doubt that it would work because you have to spin an elongate projectile to stabilize it, otherwise it will tumble. To some extent shotgun slugs are both elongate and stable because of being hollow based.
Even if you use a rifled barrel, the twist rate has to be fast enough for the bullet you are shooting and that can be calculated using the Greenhill formul.

cheers mooncoon

 

[squirrelnuttz]

I'm sorta gearing up for the same thing, minus the brass shell. If you are bent on having a sabot slug, Lyman sells a mould for $80 for their sabot slug.It uses a regular wad for the sabot.This thing looks like a way oversize .177 wadcutter pellet. The new Lyman shotshell Reloading Book is an awesome resource.

Way cheaper, for I paid $15ish abox for 10z sabot foster slugs (federal) and $22 a box for the Winchester supreme saboted 9/10 oz. Hollowpoint muzzleloader lookin' bullet.

The prices shocked the $hit outta me, so I invested in the mould. I'm going to use these in a rifled slug barrel. Lee also makes a drive-key slug (1oz.) and the mould is supposed to be very reasonable, and a place called www.tallmanindusties.ca sells them precast.

Lyman also makes a foster type mould.

If you are located around Alberta, I got a guy's card that carries an extensive line of shotshell reloading stuff, and they ship regularly. www.bilozir.net (403) 938-6066 I think they deal in Ballistic Products Inc. stuff mostly, with Hevi-shot, Nice shot, and other stuff.

Good luck, these sources are what I've scraped up over hours of surfing and gunshow attending! Hope it helps you out!