need help identifying a carbine (pics inside)

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my dad just is getting this and doesn't know exactly what it is. It's chambered in .303 british and you can see all the markings on the pictures here
can anyone give me more info on this firearm

i would also like to know what it's worth since he's getting it for free
finally he would like to put a scope on it to go hunting with it so if anyone could tell me what scope base would fit on it i would really appreciate it


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It is a run of the mill sporterized Lee Enfield No. 1mkIII. Value would be around 150 (if it has a really great bore). Was made in 1917 by BSA in England. I believe that S&K has a good scope mount for the Enfield. The ATI scope mounts are garbage...

Did he get the magazine for it? If not a mag is around 40 bucks or so...
 
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it's a Brimingham Small Arms made lee enfield #3 that's seen better days. It was factory refurbished at some time. It's probably worth $45
 
It's a cut down version of a No. 1 Mk III. It would be worth $150 - $200. Use a B-Square mount if you don't want to drill and tap. Have it checked out before firing it. Good luck.
 
yes it's coming with two magazines, were can i purchase the scope mounts (either S&K or B-Square)

also thanks a lot for the info i really love the knowledge we can find on CGN

i only have a question, it's says 1917 on it, does it mean it's the date it was manufactured? also on the side (on teh fifth pic) it also says 1996
does it mean anything?
anything interesting historically about it even if it isn't wotrh much?
 
The 1917 on the butt socket is the year of manufacture; the 1996 is the serial number of the receiver.

S&K has a no-gunsmith mount that's good, like Dar 701 said; it allows you to not dril and tap the receiver (in my opinion, it's better, you can eventually return the rifle to its original, un-sporterized version more easily).

Cheers!

Lou
 
louthepou said:
The 1917 on the butt socket is the year of manufacture; the 1996 is the serial number of the receiver.

S&K has a no-gunsmith mount that's good, like Dar 701 said; it allows you to not dril and tap the receiver (in my opinion, it's better, you can eventually return the rifle to its original, un-sporterized version more easily).

Cheers!

Lou
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were would i get that mount?
 
Spencer said:
it's a Brimingham Small Arms made lee enfield #3 that's seen better days. It was factory refurbished at some time. It's probably worth $45
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Mk. III, not #3. A number three is a mauser-liscenced design "American Enfield" built in the USA during WWI.

It's a No. 1 Mk. III*
 
The actual price that this sort of rifle actually sells for might vary regionally, but I would think $75 or so would be about it, from what I have seen.
The cost of a scope mount system would likely be similar to the value of the rifle. Whether it is a good idea would depend on the owner.
 
The FTR is a Factory Through Repair, I stand corrected it should be something like this.

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Perhaps (F) “for Fazerkely who did the FTR”.

I have to agree on the costs of these rifles. $75 to perhaps $125 depending if matching, condition of bore, drilled & taped, etc.

Pete
 
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If the numbers match and the bore is shiny, and barrel isn't cut shorter it might be a good candidate for a restoration

there are three places that the serial number is on the bolt handle the receiver and under the sight
 
If the bore is good and the head space checks out OK, then you have a good shooter on your hands that you can do one of three things with:

1. Buy a replacement wood stock set for it, and put it back to its original military shape.

2. Buy a no-gunsmith scope mount for it, and possibly an ATI synthetic stock set, and turn it into a better looking hunting rifle.

3. Leave it as is and use away.

Whatever you do... don't drill and tap it for a scope mount, because all you're doing is paying money for someone to de-value the rifle further.
 
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If the bore is good and the head space checks out OK, then you have a good shooter on your hands that you can do one of three things with:

1. Buy a replacement wood stock set for it, and put it back to its original military shape.

2. Buy a no-gunsmith scope mount for it, and possibly an ATI synthetic stock set, and turn it into a better looking hunting rifle.

3. Leave it as is and use away.

Whatever you do... don't drill and tap it for a scope mount, because all you're doing is paying money for someone to de-value the rifle further.
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Do No1 from Tyler's list and you'll be as happy as this young fellow :) :
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minus the height and weight difference that reminds me of how happy I was to get my enfield this last spring.
 
i really like the idea of putting it back to it's original shape, were would i find anoriginal woodstock set?

also i checked and so far the number seem to match and the bore is shiny, it's a gift from one of his friend but it's been used so it's in perfect working condition
 
Headspace can be checked with a gauge made for that purpose. Any gunsmith in your area should be able to do it.

Used parts for these rifles mostly come from the States (I hate the fall our dollar took recently!). Springfield Sporters, Brian #### Limited, Numrich Gun Parts are my main sources. The work involved in retrofitting that rifle has a few challenges but it's fun and rewarding.

Louis
 
You can also do a search for No.1 Mk III wood sets on e-bay as well. The sights Lou mentioned also stock a good number of replacement parts that aren't hard at all to find.

Shop around and you should be able to put it back to original shape for under $100.
 
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