Need help on deciding which gun to buy

Steve.30-06

Steve.30-06

Member
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Location
Duncan, B.C.
I have been trying too decide which bolt action .22 to buy, and have narrowed the list down too a few rifles.
I order of price lowest to highest.

1) H&R Sportster for $149.95 at wholesale sports
Features: (this is from Wholesale's site)
-Single shot rimfire
-Break-open action
-Side lever release
-Automatic ejection
-Transfer bar system
-Polymer, black matte finish Monte Carlo stock
-Sling swivel studs
-Recoil pad
-Scope mount rail & hammer extension
-No sights
-Gun lock included
-22" heavy varmint barrel
-Overall Length 38.25"
-Weight 7 lbs.
Yes I know it's not a bolt action but I am considering buying it.
zoom_sportster_youth.jpg

2) Marlin XT22 VR for $199.95 at wholesale sports
Features:
-Black synthetic Beaver-tail stock with palm swell, full pistol grip, molded in swivels, & stippled grip areas
-7-shot clip magazine
-Pro-Fire Adjustable Trigger
-Blued finish
-22" blued heavy varmint barrel with Micro-Groove rifling (16 grooves) and recessed muzzle
-Includes rear and front scope bases only. Receiver grooved for scope mount, drilled and tapped for scope bases
-Overall Length 41"
-Weight 6 lbs.
MFCXT-22VR-70835-lg.jpg

3) Savage MKII FV for $249.95 at Wholesale sports
Features:
-Black fiberglass/graphite composite stock with positive checkering
-Scope bases installed
-21" Heavy target barre
-Overall Length 39.75"
-Weight 6 lbs
-5 round magazine
-Savage AccuTrigger
gMo2VZpCZ_GMdgbzD7u.png

4) Savage MKII BV for $309.95 at Wholesale sports
Features:
-Brown laminated stock
-Scope bases installed
-21" Heavy target barrel
-Overall Length 39.75"
-Weight 6.5 lbs
-5 round magazine
-Savage AccuTrigger
NgnId4sPJ_wJ20fo0xT.png

5) Savage MKII TR for $469.99 at Cabelas
Features:
-Boyds Gunstock Industries, Tacticool Stock
-Larger Bolt Knob/Handel
-22" Fluted Heavy target barrel
-Overall Length 40"
-Weight 7.5 lbs
-5 round magazine
-Savage AccuTrigger
jvS4TwevG_CjQG1MUJg.png

6) CZ 452 American for $519.95 on Frontier Firearms
Features:
-5 round magazine
-Weight 5.9 lbs
-Overall Length 40.2"
-Barrel Length 22.5"
-Stock Type RH American Beech Wood
-Trigger Poundage ADJ
-No Sights
080226cz_zkm_452_american__17hmr-feature.jpg


Now I know somebody going too say, "get a Ruger 10/22" or "why not a semiautomatic", the reason why and it sounds stupid, is because I am new to shooting sports, and I am easily tempted to shoot fast.
Which is not what I want, I want to learn how to shoot proper and accurately. I know that a Ruger 10/22 can be accurate, its not the gun, its the shooter behind the gun. This is not the only .22 that
I am going to buy, later on I'll most likely buy a Ruger 10/22(but that another time, and a couple of years down the road). The reason why I am showing Wholesale's prices is because its a 30min driver to
their store from where I live. If anyone know of a better place to purchase one of the guns on my list here, that's cheaper in price please let me know.

-Thanks you for your input, Steve.

Please keep in mind that my budget allows a maximum of $550.00 that's all I can afford to spend.
 
Last edited:
Steve.30-06 said:
I have been trying too decide which bolt action .22 to buy, and have narrowed the list down too a few rifles.
I order of price lowest to highest.

1) H&R Sportster for $149.95 at wholesale sports
Features: (this is from Wholesale's site)
-Single shot rimfire
-Break-open action
-Side lever release
-Automatic ejection
-Transfer bar system
-Polymer, black matte finish Monte Carlo stock
-Sling swivel studs
-Recoil pad
-Scope mount rail & hammer extension
-No sights
-Gun lock included
-22" heavy varmint barrel
-Overall Length 38.25"
-Weight 7 lbs.
Yes I know it's not a bolt action but I am considering buying it.
zoom_sportster_youth.jpg

2) Marlin XT22 VR for $199.95 at wholesale sports
Features:
-Black synthetic Beaver-tail stock with palm swell, full pistol grip, molded in swivels, & stippled grip areas
-7-shot clip magazine
-Pro-Fire Adjustable Trigger
-Blued finish
-22" blued heavy varmint barrel with Micro-Groove rifling (16 grooves) and recessed muzzle
-Includes rear and front scope bases only. Receiver grooved for scope mount, drilled and tapped for scope bases
-Overall Length 41"
-Weight 6 lbs.
MFCXT-22VR-70835-lg.jpg

3) Savage MKII FV for $249.95 at Wholesale sports
Features:
-Black fiberglass/graphite composite stock with positive checkering
-Scope bases installed
-21" Heavy target barre
-Overall Length 39.75"
-Weight 6 lbs
-5 round magazine
-Savage AccuTrigger
gMo2VZpCZ_GMdgbzD7u.png

4) Savage MKII BV for $309.95 at Wholesale sports
Features:
-Brown laminated stock
-Scope bases installed
-21" Heavy target barrel
-Overall Length 39.75"
-Weight 6.5 lbs
-5 round magazine
-Savage AccuTrigger
NgnId4sPJ_wJ20fo0xT.png

5) Savage MKII TR for $469.99 at Cabelas
Features:
-Boyds Gunstock Industries, Tacticool Stock
-Larger Bolt Knob/Handel
-22" Fluted Heavy target barrel
-Overall Length 40"
-Weight 7.5 lbs
-5 round magazine
-Savage AccuTrigger
jvS4TwevG_CjQG1MUJg.png


Now I know somebody going too say, "get a Ruger 10/22" or "why not a semiautomatic", the reason why and it sounds stupid, is because I am new to shooting sports, and I am easily tempted to shoot fast.
Which is not what I want, I want to learn how to shoot proper and accurately. I know that a Ruger 10/22 can be accurate, its not the gun, its the shooter behind the gun. This is not the only .22 that
I am going to buy, later on I'll most likely buy a Ruger 10/22(but that another time, and a couple of years down the road). The reason why I am showing Wholesale's prices is because its a 30min driver to
their store from where I live. If anyone know of a better place to purchase one of the guns on my list here, that's cheaper in price please let me know.

-Thanks you for your input, Steve.
Click to expand...

Semi auto's are overrated. Personally I'd go with any of the Savages that you've listed, with the MKII TR being at the top of the list, and going backwards from there. Savages have an excellent track record of accuracy, and the triggers seem to be very good, overall. The break action and the marlin are a waste of time in my opinion; Marlin quality is sketchy, break actions are... not my thing, and the Savages have more industry support than the other two combined.

That's my .02, take it for what it's worth. Also, try to buy used. Unless the gun is severely abused, it should have plenty of life left in it.
 
Paper shooting or critter shooting? i would not want to carry around a heavy barrel in the gopher fields ...so a lighter savage like a MarkII or a Stevens 300 would be plenty accurate enough to 150-200 yards, with a scope of course.
if you are resting and sandbagging the gun and shooting paper then a heavy will be the pick. Expensive does not mean accuracy....practice and confidence does that.
My gun preference is my Marlin 81s made in 1940. Cost was $100 each.
 
CZ455 Varmint or American.

Similar cost to the TR, much nicer gun.

Conversely the FV if you want something cheapish and goodish.

-Grant
 
+1 for the Savage Arms Mark II TR

Nice tacticool stock...amazing accutrigger...heavy fluted barrel...dead accurate.

I know...I own one.
 
I have decided, finally to get a CZ 452 American, it will be pushing it on the budget, but you can't go wrong with a CZ(or at least I haven't heard of anything bad about them).
Now I have a Tasco 3-9x32mm Rimfire scope, but is there some other scope that would be better for this rifle, any recommendations?
 
Thats a good scope to start with and use for many years to come as more then likely you will be shooting a lot at the 100 yard range. Its perfect for that distance and of decent enough quality as well.
 
Steve.30-06 said:
I have decided, finally to get a CZ 452 American, it will be pushing it on the budget, but you can't go wrong with a CZ(or at least I haven't heard of anything bad about them).
Now I have a Tasco 3-9x32mm Rimfire scope, but is there some other scope that would be better for this rifle, any recommendations?
Click to expand...

Smart choice!

I bought two CZ452s (Style and Varmint) 10 yrs ago after I got rid of a 10/22 and a CIL Anschutz that couldn't hit the side of a proverbial barn.

Then a whole slew of 22 bolties and semis including Savages, Marlins, Winchesters etc. I have slowly disposed of most and after the culling, will probably be left with the two CZs, a Savage single shot MKIGY and a Winchester 69A. Common denominator of these survivors is superb accuracy and excellent fit and finish. Yes, strange but it is my good fortune that the Savage is very well fitted and finished.
 
little_airwolf said:
I have a Savage BTVS. Please youtube the BTVS. Simply awesome target gun. Abit heavy but I can shoot gophers over 100 yds all day long.
Click to expand...

Same thing, I bougth a 17 HMR Savage 93R17 and sold it to get a 22lr Savage Mk II BTVS.
Believe it or not I sold my Ruger 10/22 3 months after buying after buying the Savage!

It can shoot 5 shots in 1/2" at 50 yards (the best 22lr target rifles do 1/2" at 100 yards).

Alex
 
Savage or CZ, you can't go wrong with either. I think I'd choose the Mark II BV if I were you, not the BTVS. I'm REALLY not a fan of thumb hole stocks. Not the look, not the feel. Granted, I had to buy one and learn the hard way. :(

Having said that, very few people..upon seeing them side by side...would choose a Savage over a CZ unless price was the issue. The CZs are just so nicely made that's it's easy to see what you're getting for the extra $. My personal experience is that CZs don't shoot any better than Savages, and I far prefer the Savage Accutrigger over anything else. If you care for your guns, both will probably outlast you. Scope-wise, what you have is probably a good fit for either gun, but bolt throw on the CZ can be an issue with some larger scopes. (ie, the bolt handle, in the open position, stops way higher on CZs than on Savages)

I sold my CZ 452 (17 HMR) last year and I have some regret about that move. I plan on getting another, but every time I come close...I think a 452 Varmint in .22lr would probably get more use. Not sure if this post helps, but to me...your 2 best choices are the Savage Mark II BV or CZ452 varmint. Both are favorites of mine.
 
Never shot the savage but my CZ's are absolute tack drivers! The 452 has been replaced by the 455 so you made a good choice, get the yodave trigger kit and you'll love it. As for scopes, try and get an adjustable objective and high mounts to clear the bolt throw.
 
Grantmac said:
CZ455 Varmint or American.

Similar cost to the TR, much nicer gun.

Conversely the FV if you want something cheapish and goodish.

-Grant
Click to expand...

+1 on that. The CZ 452/455 Varmint if you're just punching paper. No point getting a single shot when a Savage MKII FV cost a little bit more, but takes magazines. If you want really cheap single shot, go for a used Cooey. Just don't buy it at a gun show. :p

300shooter said:
Never shot the savage but my CZ's are absolute tack drivers! The 452 has been replaced by the 455 so you made a good choice, get the yodave trigger kit and you'll love it. As for scopes, try and get an adjustable objective and high mounts to clear the bolt throw.
Click to expand...

+1 on getting an AO scope for shooting off the bench. It will help when you start stretching out your shots to 200m+.
 
Buy a CZ, they are fine handling guns, the shoot great.
The bad is the stamped trigger guard ad the grooved bases even claimed to be 3/8th they maybe be 11mm metric dove tail and a bit of fussing is needed when mounting a scope. Not to mention a tighter than normal chamber so a Dewey cleaning rod may also be needed when cleaning your new CZ .22
Generally they have a target provided that shows functionality from the factory, but it is a good indication of accuracy as well.
They replicate a full size hunting rifle pretty well and for training purposes this might be a bonus to you, but they really proof is how any of the guns you mention fit your body and of course your wallet.
CZ is more expensive about $200.00 on the high side and if your on a budget the extra money could go a long way in buying ammo, scope and a cleaning kit, what may suffer is a bit of accuracy.
Any CZ I have shot liked AE Hollow points for plinking and shooting gophers in the flat lands, stingers and CCI Quick shocks are also good choices for ammo.
Tight Groups,
Rob
 
If you opted for the CZ 452, I don't think you'll regret it.
They shoulder well and feel right.
Bonus is they don't make them any more, so once their gone, their gone.
Someone will buy yours if and when you wish to sell it.
Enjoy some class........... :p
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom