Need help with 9mm reload

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I am reload 9mm for my Glock and SIG. Somehow the group is like 4" at 15 yards, while UMC ammo can hit 2" without problem.

I am using 130gr lead bullet. I taper-crimp the bullet. I tried 3.6, 3.8, 4.0, 4.2 gr of Titegroup but no improvement.

At mean time my 45ACP reload shoots touching holes all the time.

Any suggestion?

Thanks!
 
Ive found my SIGs dont like lead. However they seem to really like 147gr jacketed bullets so you might want to give jacketed a try. I also use 231, but am just trying TG to see what all the fuss is about. On a good day mine will all touch at 25yds, on a not so good day...well...somtimes I cant even score them all.

Its often just a matter of finding the right combination of bullets/powder/karma for your gun.
 
I load 4.0gr W231 with a 124gr lead (cast) RN.
Shoots under 2" groups out of an NZ-85 Norinco 9mm CZ clone. The load is so accurate that I have reloaded 1,600 rounds with it. Can never have too much ammo. Oh, I use 100% pure wheelweights, no mixing. Bullets are quenched in water after casting. Cleanup is quick with a bronze brush and solvent.
 
Griffoneur said:
I load 4.0gr W231 with a 124gr lead (cast) RN.
Shoots under 2" groups out of an NZ-85 Norinco 9mm CZ clone. The load is so accurate that I have reloaded 1,600 rounds with it. Can never have too much ammo. Oh, I use 100% pure wheelweights, no mixing. Bullets are quenched in water after casting. Cleanup is quick with a bronze brush and solvent.
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What do you mean by "Quenching" in water? Do you submerg the round after crimping?
 
smokingunns said:
What do you mean by "Quenching" in water? Do you submerg the round after crimping?
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No, after I pour the lead into the mold, I let it solidify a bit, then drop the hot cast bullet into a pail of water, this causes the lead to cool rapidly and increases hardness. I get very little lead fouling in my barrel and cleaning only takes a couple of minutes at end of the day.
 
Ahh, you were talking about casting your own bullets...sorry for the newbie question as I thought you were referring to the reloading process.

Thanks for the clarification.
 
I would suggest you do a couple of things. first off is buy some FMJs and load them to see how they do. if they do good then you know it is in your bullets and you have to look at your casting/lubing process. if they don't group well then it is your loading technique.

However both guns you are shooting are not lead friendly guns. i believe that if you shoot lead out of a glock you void your warranty.
 
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