Need help with Parkerhale rifle identification****MODEL # FOUND!!!!!*****
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There should be a model designation on the barrel.
It looks like the "Safari" but they had several different versions of that model.
The action is a commercial 98, maybe out of Yugoslavia or Belgium.
They are very good quality rifles, with proprietary adjustable triggers, straight grain Walnut stocks, some did have good figure though.
The magazines are available but haven't been made for a long time, and are "expensive."
You may want to glass bed that stock, and check the barrel channel for free float, other than the "bedding pad" at the front end. Some of them didn't have the "bedding pad"
It looks like the "Safari" but they had several different versions of that model.
The action is a commercial 98, maybe out of Yugoslavia or Belgium.
They are very good quality rifles, with proprietary adjustable triggers, straight grain Walnut stocks, some did have good figure though.
The magazines are available but haven't been made for a long time, and are "expensive."
You may want to glass bed that stock, and check the barrel channel for free float, other than the "bedding pad" at the front end. Some of them didn't have the "bedding pad"
Thanks Steve!!
Thanks Bear, its a great looking gun for sure
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- Western Manitoba
Be aware that the lock up for that "clip" will wear - years ago I fired at a whitetail buck with a "well experienced" Parker Hale rifle - I cycled the bolt and realized that I might get another look at him, if I ran to the edge of nearby bush - when I got there, I could see his tracks in the snow - he had got there first and beat me. I opened the rifle - nothing in the chamber and no magazine - followed my tracks back to where I fired - I found the empty cartridge where it landed when I ejected, and found that "clip" laying in the snow where I had been standing to fire - so that "clip" allowed the first round to be stripped out of it, but then fell out when I fired. I had fired that rifle many dozens of times at the range - never had that "clip" fall out before - but I could make it do so - the "nubs" on the clip or the rifle were worn - I re-punched the nubs on that "clip" and then the original owner wanted to buy the thing back - so I sold it back to him - a 30-06. Since then, I have had an aversion to "clips" for hunting - most all of my centre fire rifles either have fixed or hinged floor plates, if they are not single shot rifles.
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- Western Manitoba
OP - when the Parker Hale Company was sold - virtually all the company records were burned - a guy in PEI and I were trying to make sense of serial numbers used - we were working from adverts found (Eaton's and Simpson Sears catalogues - SIR catalogues) and rifles on hand. We never did make any sense of the serial number sequence - they were not assigned in manufacture order - did not seem to follow cartridge either. The best we could do was the Birmingham Proof stamps, which are probably stamped on bottom of that chamber area on the barrel - only visible when the barrelled action is removed from the stock. That proof stamp will tell you the year that the thing was "proof tested". I do not know what time delay can occur between actual manufacture and British Birmingham proof - might be a day or two or might be six months or more - I do not know. There are at least four or five Parker Hale rifles here - two are 1200 TX in 7.62 NATO, but none of the "hunting" types indicate anywhere on them whether they are Model 1000, 1100 or 1200 - each was available with either a "clip" or a hinged floor plate - the parts list I have shows identical parts numbers for all - except for the stock part number - which appears to be the only difference among them. You may discover that Parker Hale made rifles for others - like CIL - so what you end up to hold might have several names.
Thanks, Ill take it out of the stock and have a look
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- Western Manitoba
A curiosity about dismantling those Parker Hale clip versions - the cross pin for the clip latch - in front of the trigger guard loop - has to be removed - that latch and it's spring will fall out - way up inside is an Allen Head third action bolt that connects the trigger guard to the action - easy enough to see the slotted screws at front and rear of the trigger guard assembly.
I have a 1970 Parker Hale Catalogue - it shows the 1200 TX in 7.62 NATO as a repeater. Then I have a reprint of the 1975/76 Parker Hale catalogue - it seems to introduce the Mark III version of the 1200 TX rifle. I have the repeater - that one is marked as made for the 1969 Palma Competition. The single shot only has two action screws - so is probably the Mark II version. I have had a WTB ad up on CGN for a long time - hoping to find a Parker Hale catalogue between 1970 and 1975 - I do not know when the 1200 TX was changed from repeater to single shot, and I am not 100% sure when the Mark II was actually introduced.
I have a 1970 Parker Hale Catalogue - it shows the 1200 TX in 7.62 NATO as a repeater. Then I have a reprint of the 1975/76 Parker Hale catalogue - it seems to introduce the Mark III version of the 1200 TX rifle. I have the repeater - that one is marked as made for the 1969 Palma Competition. The single shot only has two action screws - so is probably the Mark II version. I have had a WTB ad up on CGN for a long time - hoping to find a Parker Hale catalogue between 1970 and 1975 - I do not know when the 1200 TX was changed from repeater to single shot, and I am not 100% sure when the Mark II was actually introduced.
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That magazine should be just fine, from the looks of it in the pics.
I do understand your aversion to "magazines." They're just "something else" to go wrong on a hunt.
They can be lost, damaged, forgotten at home, or left in the pocket of the scabbard, etc.
The mags in the Parker Hale rifles were well made, but their lock up was relatively loose, and when they wore, the issues you wrote about were not uncommon.
I had one with a very easily actuated release. The magazine would fall out during recoil if my finger hit it.
I do understand your aversion to "magazines." They're just "something else" to go wrong on a hunt.
They can be lost, damaged, forgotten at home, or left in the pocket of the scabbard, etc.
The mags in the Parker Hale rifles were well made, but their lock up was relatively loose, and when they wore, the issues you wrote about were not uncommon.
I had one with a very easily actuated release. The magazine would fall out during recoil if my finger hit it.
Nice rifle I have one of these as well ,from my research I concluded it was a 1200 delux which was the detach mag version.Very nice rifles ,mine is a 7mm rem mag .I think these were at the end of the Parker hale production .I did managed to find a spare mag for mine but it wasn’t cheap.Here is a pic of mine
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That is as nice a PH I have seen in a long time.
Usually a few dings and bruises , not abused but has seen action in the field.
Mags go easily North of $100.00 and not easy to find.
Downside is they are heavy, but they shoot very good from the two that I have owned.
Just glass bed it and you will be impressed.
The 300WM I had was used by a father and son team to shoot Speed Goats in Montana ??
They shot it two seasons and I bought it and the funds they received went towards a lighter rifle.
Enjoy yours.
Rob
Usually a few dings and bruises , not abused but has seen action in the field.
Mags go easily North of $100.00 and not easy to find.
Downside is they are heavy, but they shoot very good from the two that I have owned.
Just glass bed it and you will be impressed.
The 300WM I had was used by a father and son team to shoot Speed Goats in Montana ??
They shot it two seasons and I bought it and the funds they received went towards a lighter rifle.
Enjoy yours.
Rob
Thanks Gaff!!
It is a commercial 98 but these should be Santa Barbara actions IIRC.
Off the top of my head (I have a copy of an old reference printed at my cottage), I believe most of the 1200C models had the squared-off foreend rifle stock and sparse checkering (and usually lacquered from factory). The earlier 1100C models would have this stock design with more complicated checkering, rounded foreend. The first 1000 models were a mixed bag to even included sporterised military K98 actions. However, I also seem to recall that there was quite a bit of overlap and in-between models, along with special variants.
The thumb safety on this model seems to be of the nicer machined, serrated toggle vs the later stamped steel nub but otherwise the trigger, trigger guard/mag housing and mags are the same. I tend to think this is a nice example of the 1100C.
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Thanks Winz for the info
