NEED INFO ON BINGHAM .22rf PPS CLONE see photo

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I've just purchased at online auction a Bingham .22rf Model PPS-50 which is a look-alike of the Russian 9mm PPSh. (I collect .22rf look-alikes of military weapons.) This is a new one on me and I'm taking a flyer purchasing it from photos. I'm including here the online photo the seller ran. I'd like to hear from any readers who've had some experience with this gun so I know better what to expect. (I also have purchased a Thompson A3 .22rf made by Auto Ordnance that I'll run in a separate posting with photo.) Thanks for any help.
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I used to own an original pps-50, back in 83 or so. I really thought it was cool and sold a dirt bike to get it. It would only feed round nose ammo, and it had be higher velocity stuff or the action wouldn't cycle as it had a tight set of recoil springs. Never take the drum apart as it isa dirty dirty ##### to put back together. it will unwind itself and you will likely lose a dinky little pin that holds it together. It also had a problem with the trigger. If you held the safety down and pulled the trigger hard it would go full auto. Really fun when your 15 years old. All my buddies thought it was cool, though the city police didn't. I got it confiscated and that was the end of my pps-50. Cool gun though. Make sure that you get the mag loader, or you will never get to load it.
 
I never had good luck with this one. First the mag never cycled well. then problems with always jamming. Tried every type of ammo i could, and was always cleaned after each use. After 3 weeks waiting for a new spring i gave up and sold it.Also had to change firing pin. This was before they restricted it. also had the ak, and m16 clones. ak one worked the best.
 
I have one very similar to yours but without the muzzle brake.

I have found it to be quite reliable with the occassional jam. It seems to like some ammo better than others.

Lot of fun to shoot, quite accurate, always attracts lots of attention at the range. Have several friends who would love to buy if they could fine one too.
 
MANY THANKS TO ALL WHO RESPONDED. sharpsguy please note: A fellow in BC whom I was to led to by another CGN user, has offered me an original PPs loader. From your post I know now to take advantage of his offer. Same BC gent offered to photostat his original instruction manual and mail it. Talk about a neighborly bunch - that's gunnutz for you. And, now I've got to try holding the safety down, etc. to see if I can get it to go full. When I lived in BC 35-40 years ago I had an original Russki PPSh with drum mag and this Bingham was the closest thing in .22rf I've ever found. There's another make (can't recall the name) of .22rf PPSh clone offered for sale nearby here in Ocala, FL but it doesn't come close in the looks department compared to the Bingham. This Bingham cost me about double what they wanted for the other make. Your comments are mixed, some indicate trouble ahead others loved it. Luckily I'm more interested in appearance for exhibit than in actually shooting it. It's mint and still in original box, just had no papers with it. SSrecce mentioned the muzzle brake. Down here we can't enjoy the short-barrel version you folks can. The BC gent mentioned his Bingham is also short-barrel - as is his Thompson A3 .22rf - compared to mine. Look for my Thompson posting which also posted on this forum. THANKS AGAIN. mauser
 
adamn - You say you had the ak and M16 clones. Do you you mean .22rf look-alikes? If so, which brand of ak was it you liked? That I'd be interested in, but not the M16. Whoever named that ilk "ugly black rifles" was certainly correct. The ak is also ugly, but you can't deny its international acceptance and appeal. Anyone who doesn't recognize that distinct profile must have been living on some other planet. mauser
 
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