Need information about this revolver

[loewen43]

I have this revolver and I need some parts for it. I need the main hammer spring, trigger return spring and the cylinder hand. I've started to make the hammer spring but I can't figure out exactly what shape it needs to be. If anyone has one intact and could send me some pictures of what all those parts are supposed to look like it would be a huge help. Also any other information about the gun would be appreciated. Thanks.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TUlIg_uKt8SmaT7d0HiA5uJUgcjorkr8/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TX06xjJNBkKxWNnb7-wGtOgXalUrcqa6/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Tbh2SUaRuqJSxaw2NRz2T7dLYAEeJeAE/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TcxIw7HnkkKKqolB7VoU2IJnaDIks9lf/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TgGdLdXXMEPAvsQA4RCuWKYaS3FjwCTX/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TVx2EwtmCAPvkryp_nsU62V_zvdM4uTz/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Tor0CLOHPF8GKGxYE4YrchXwT9yjols0/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TeVYX4-mm8XWIBFGtJDpleXdMevTEWcH/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ti6OrXrLkdarX3iUEznUqRJ1SdV63_80/view?usp=drivesdk

 

[rgbai]

I have a similar one is there a HD stamped under the grips



https://littlegun.be/arme belge/artisans identifies h/a henrion and dassy gb.htm

 

[loewen43]

No on one side is either"sc" or "so" and on the other side a star above JC

 

[gunzik]

Yours is a Belgian Royal Irish Constabulary revolver copy, with the addition of the safety lever that the original didn't have, as far as I know.

Parts will be unobtainable, but if you look for "Belgian RIC .450 revolver copy" you will be in for bunches of pictures of guns just like yours. You might get lucky.

You may be able to convince someone who has one, to photograph and measure the parts you need to help re-create them. Sadly, it's not a question of going to Western Gun Parts or Numrich and ordering up bits and pieces off a nice schematic.

If you find yourself a tool and die shop that has a "Rocklin Mold Mender" or similar induction micro welder, you can get (thin strips of) metal added back on to your worn pieces. I have successfully fried on thin AS2 (air hardening) material, and hardening wear surfaces isn't that awful if you find someone with a small oven that shares your hobby. Induction welding allows you to weld dissimilar metals, as long as they are ferrous. It doesn't generate the heat other types of welding do, and the process is surprisingly tolerant of low skill. More skill is always better, but not really needed to build up parts like a hand, a pin, the frame facing part of your cylinder, or the worn end of a spring, etc.

Since these guns were hand fitted, literally in cottages (where "cottage industry" comes from) by people with widely varying skill, gathered and inspected by a manager, and then finally proofed and sold in a batch from the "factory", materials were poor to excellent, fit and finish was ... lacking, at times, and even the retailers of these arms (eg. Sears Roebuck in the USA) said "if you're planning to shoot your gun a lot, buy a different gun".

These are neat, and some are very nicely made. I have a number of Belgian cottage copies, though mine are much smaller. Unlike Colt or Smith or Remington, you will not find many parts except from other owners. You may have some luck on gun auction websites. Most often, the parts worn out in your gun are worn out in all of them, so to bring it back to working order, I'd really recommend finding someone to build up and reshape the existing part(s) you have, since I think you would probably have a better chance buying lottery tickets than you would finding a part to fit a hand-made revolver. Of course you can make springs, though it is an art form. Youtube and these forums are your friends! You can find lots of instruction on spring making here.