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I've got a breda m1 with a minty exterior and a #### bore. Ive also got an EXC breda bbl thats been lying around and after searching for a mint one to match the rifle to no avail, Id like to put it on now...The bore is nice but theres are 2 things I would like to do to it

1- repark it to match the rifle (rifle has minty parkerizing and bbl has worn finish)
2- Recrown it by a few thou (small little knicks at the crown)

Then I need to get it slapped on and indexed...

Is there a competent smith out there that can do all this?
 
I don't know what's politically correct vis-a-vis mentioning commercial gunsmith organizations here, but the gunsmith I use in Toronto has a 30 year+ milsurp veteran on-staff, who's personally worked on three Garands for me. He's built, re-built and re-barreled hundreds of Garands in his career. I think he said he used to live in Montreal at one time in the real old days and had worked for an importer (Districorps?) who imported Garands at one time.

Although not exactly what you want to do, I found out the hard way that you have to be real careful if you're going to have a standard 30.06 Garand converted to .308, particularly who does it. I bought one from a board member that was supposedly done by another professional gunsmith here in Ontario, who apparently thought you just cranked the barrel on with "Locktite" and walked away. It cost me unnecessarily to get it redone by the experienced Garand gunsmith I mentioned above. He gave me a written forensic report to send to the seller and his gunsmith for a claim, but I never bothered.

Since he fixed it up, I've never had any further problems with serious feeding or short stroking, the way it was when I originally bought it. It now shoots like wildfire and I great groups using 7.62mm surplus. The moral ..... Caveat Emptor ...... and use gunsmiths with a good pedigree of having actually worked on a lot of a particular type of these old girls.

If you want send me an email and I'll give you all of the information.

BTW, ~Angel~ also uses the same guy for her Enfields and he's done a terrific job re-bedding a few of her DCRA beasts, that had faded over the years.

Regards,
Badger
 
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And your point? Do you have the jigs, the proper reviever wrench, the proper barrel vise ect....all of that stuff costs money. If you could do it yourself you would right? Figure on about 1 hour to remove the old barrel, and 2 to put the new one back on. Do they charge by the hour? We charge $86.00 per hour no matter what the job. If it takes more time then you pay more. If we run into a snag, you pay more. Any questions?

Scott
Dycor Special Services
 
OK, here's an alternative. Contact SKSCannuck. He does parkerizing WAY cheaper than that. Once reparked, bring it to Jason at Gunco and he'll do the bbl swap for under $100.
 
Claven2

Good info and seems to be more in line, price wise. Jason does great work so no issues there.

Correct me if am wrong, but isn't parkerizing fairly straightforward, if you spend a modest amount of money on some basic equipment, like a dip tank etc?

M39a2

I guess i didn't realize that the tools, like a reciever wrench, barrel vise etc are one time use items, that are no good after a single barrel swap and need to be thrown away. Hence the high cost of this work. I guess I will be buying half a dozen sets in the near future! (There is sarcasm in this, if you haven't figured it out).:rolleyes:

LI
 
Problem with parkign at home is that you can;t do a barrel on most stovetops. Need to have a long enough stainless tank ;) That's why I suggested SKScanuck. I know he has the right setup!

Otherwise, parking is really easy.
 
Claven2

Yes, i thought of that, but what about a couple of those cheapo double burners lined up. So i assume ss does not get parked, during the process? I am not considering doing this kind of work myself, but am just curious.
 
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And your point? Do you have the jigs, the proper reviever wrench, the proper barrel vise ect....all of that stuff costs money. If you could do it yourself you would right? Figure on about 1 hour to remove the old barrel, and 2 to put the new one back on. Do they charge by the hour? We charge $86.00 per hour no matter what the job. If it takes more time then you pay more. If we run into a snag, you pay more. Any questions?

Scott
Dycor Special Services
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Scott. Have you ever taken off an M1 barrel? If it takes you an hour then you are the WORST GUNSMITH IN THE WORLD.

If the owner brings in a barrelled receiver, it should take no more than FIVE MINUTES, and that includes the time to set up the barrel block and receiver wrench. Yes, I have done this myself before and DO know what I'm talking about.

Putting the new barrel on takes maybe another 5 minutes. Figure an hour total, if the headspacing needs tweeking - though on an M1, if the headspace is off, the only real fix is swapping in other bolts till one headspaces. This is b/c the barrel has to index perfectly to function, and b/c you can't lathe the barrel shoulder back a full thread and rechamber or the op rod will be too long. So taking that into consideration, the swap should only take the stated 5 minutes, unless the owner supplied you a few bolt bodies to try your field gauge against.

That about explain it? Now stop ripping off naive M1 owners. And for that matter, thanks for ensuring I never take an M1 to Dycor... :rolleyes:
 
Well I just found the pricing to be way over the top when I have a friend in mtl that does parkerizing himself and when Barney was (dunno if he still is) accepting m305 and m1 to be rebarreled and re indexed for the cost of shipping. I realise that people like barney are one in a mil but still 450!!!
 
OK, here's an alternative. Contact SKSCannuck. He does parkerizing WAY cheaper than that.
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Tis true...I do it as a hobby not a business though.

I can't guarantee a match to your receiver, but I can parkerize it light grey to charcoal grey.

Ask wolfgang. Him and I did his Garand, had some "issues" but we finally sorted them out. I believe Claven2 used my setup to do a Garand.

I work for beer, gun parts and favours...
 
Yeah, I've done an M1, lots M14 parts, a Hi-Power, and some other stuff I'm forgetting right now... SKSCanuck is "da man" when it comes to bargain priced parkerizing solution and tank use! ;)
 
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Scott. Have you ever taken off an M1 barrel? If it takes you an hour then you are the WORST GUNSMITH IN THE WORLD.

If the owner brings in a barrelled receiver, it should take no more than FIVE MINUTES, and that includes the time to set up the barrel block and receiver wrench. Yes, I have done this myself before and DO know what I'm talking about.

Putting the new barrel on takes maybe another 5 minutes. Figure an hour total, if the headspacing needs tweeking - though on an M1, if the headspace is off, the only real fix is swapping in other bolts till one headspaces. This is b/c the barrel has to index perfectly to function, and b/c you can't lathe the barrel shoulder back a full thread and rechamber or the op rod will be too long. So taking that into consideration, the swap should only take the stated 5 minutes, unless the owner supplied you a few bolt bodies to try your field gauge against.

That about explain it? Now stop ripping off naive M1 owners. And for that matter, thanks for ensuring I never take an M1 to Dycor... :rolleyes:
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Guys like you are why gunsmiths can't make a full time job of it. A bunch of people charging ridiculously low ammounts to do work. Every other skilled trade has minimum charges that they bill for different jobs. It's the sign of a professional skilled tradesman.

It's only smart business to charge minimum charges. Most tradesmen would give someone a deal if a job took 5 minutes instead of an hour. But it only makes sense to quote minimums.

And as for saying that he's ripping someone off, maybe you should meet Scott and Kevin and deal with them before saying something so incredibly offensive and stupid. I dealt with them, and was so impressed with their professionalism and their friendly "deal on a handshake" way of doing business that I asked them if they could teach me some gunsmithing....

And as for people that don't understand the concept of having to ammortize the cost of tools over months or years, try having an investment of a couple thousand dollars in tools, and then making them pay for themselves by working in your trade. It literally sometimes takes years to make a specailty tool pay for itself.
 
Ok so lets ban people from do other people favors...besides I didnt ask for any machining to be done the quote was 450$ to remove and install an m1 barrel...im sure the people at epps are great, in fact Ive had great email conversations with one of the employees there frequently. Im just not up to paying more then what I pad for the rifle in the 1st place to have the barrel fixed...
 
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