Need some info on this midland 308

Microvibe

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Hello,

I have a midland 308 bolt action, cant find any info on it , i know its a cheaper line sold by parker hale but thats about all.

Also i am thinking of selling it and getting a new deer hunting rifle for longer ranges typically 300-500yard shots. I was thinking the 300 win mag from savage the package deal with scope etc because it is the clip model. What other calibers do you guys recommend for 300-500 range shots on deer (also something that will go thru alittle brush in the 0-100yard range) I use a rem 7400 30-06 typically for my bush hunting 165-180 grain bullets.

Here's a pic of the midland
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Thanks
Travis
 
The Midland rifles featured a 1903 Springfield bolt fitted to a modified mauser type receiver. They were a low priced rifle and the quality of fit and finish reflected that. Regards, Bill
 
I guess what i really wanted to know is the midland i have worth putting a good scope on it and using it as my 300-500yard gun or would i be better off selling and getting something better. If i do purchase a new rifle i only have about 750$ to spend including taxs. I have been thinking of using a 270 wsm a 300 wsm just seems to much gun for me i like to target shoot alot and the savage model 300's seem lite might get quite uncomfortable shooting that all day.

thanks for your reply
travis
 
at the moment the 308 is just zero'd for 100yards with a 4x banner on it never even tried i longer shot, as for my rem 7400 i am good till 150-200yd kill zone shots(prone or using bench without rifle rests). This is prolly gonna sound dumb but when i shoot 300yd plus i use my old lee enfield 303, the reason i use the 303 is because i hav ebeen using it for 15 years(first HP rifle) and i know the rifle in and out. As of right now the longest shot i'd make at a animal would be 300-325 yards with the 303, this is why i am posting about sugestions on a LR rifle , i want to buy a new rifle strictly for my Field hunting.
 
Microvibe, you talk of shooting deer at 300-500 yards.

I don't mean any offence, but how much experience do you have at shooting at that range?

Shooting beyond 300 yards is no joke. It requires a rock solid rest, time, correct wind reading (without the benefit of flags), and absolute knowledge of the range in order to get the proper elevation. Try shooting a 2-litre coke bottle full of water at 400 yards sometime, and see what I mean.

I'm a long range competitive shooter, and in our game we shoot .308s exclusively. A properly loaded .308 certainly has the right stuff to consistently kill a deer at 500 yards. Absolutely no doubt about it. You can take it to the bank. In fact, if I were seriously contemplating a situation where I had to shoot 500 yards at deer, my target rifle would be my first choice because I have lots of experience shooting 5-inch bullseyes at that range with it, and I know exactly how high to hold and how to shade the wind for that load. I say this even though I have a highly tuned .300 Winchester Magnum, which is more than accurate and powerful enough for that job.

So my question to you is: how well does your Midland shoot? If you can get the first three shots into one inch or less at 100 yards every time, then you have marginally enough accuracy to do the job on a deer at 500. In reality, you should have more, and it's no great trick these days to get better accuracy than that for the first 3 shots, which is all that is needed for hunting rifles.

However, accuracy aside, shooting skill and experience is the most important factor in shooting at animals at extended range. I'm going to come out and say this, even though it's harsh: anyone who goes out and buys a magnum rifle and starts taking pot shots at animals at 500 yards without extensive practice at that range, including, ideally, some competition experience, is a moron, plain and simple. The great thing about the .308 is that it's generally accurate, easy to load for, common, and is the standard competition cartridge. All of these factors make it possible to get the experience for long-range shooting. (By contrast, I don't know of any DCRA range that will allow a magnum cartridge.)

The simple reality is that few people ever see deer at more than 300 yards, and if they do, they almost always have the chance of getting closer.

So here's the short answer again: a properly loaded .308 or .30-06 (ie with the exciting new bullets like the Nosler Accubond or Barnes TripleShock) will be able to cleanly take any deer at 500 yards if the bullet gets to the right place. The problem is getting the bullet to the right place when you're shooting from that far away. That problem is HUGE -- far bigger than the miniscule differences between the choice of cartridge, scope or rifle model. And the ONLY way to overcome that problem is through lots of shooting at extended ranges (which is a humbling experience, believe me). However, if you are serious about practicing at extended ranges, cartridges like the .308 and .30-06 are very practical, economical and user-friendly.
 
Thanks for reply p-17.

I am not a competion shooter at the moment but maybe one day i might get into it. I do practice alot using all shooting positions because while hunting i cant have a solid rest. That is why i have kept my rem 7400 setup for the typical hunting shot within 100yards. To be honest i dont know if i will ever shoot a deer at 400-500yards but when on the field i want a dependable rifle capable of 300y+, btw i am not gonna go buy a magnum just because and start shooting at deer accross the field, i guess maybe you guys get alot a people asking this questions just to do that. I just love shooting and increasing my skill just alittle every year. What is considered a good grouping from a bench without a solid rest just using sling and elbow.
 
Two minutes is about what a really good shooter should aspire to holding from a sling in field positions.

As I've said before, anyone who can consistently hold better than 1 minute in the prone position with no support other than a sling is a world-class competitive shooter. (This standard does not apply to someone shooting an Anschutz match type rifle at 50 metres. It's quite possible to get insanely small groups with a match .22 at that range.)

If you get to a point where you can shoot a six-inch group at 300 yards with only a sling for support, you've done all that can be expected without major competitive experience.
 
well thanks for the info, i think now i am gonna take the midland out and see what kind of groupings i can get at a 100y. Then decide if all i need to do is get a scope or a new rifle as well. Thier is also alot of info on this site i havent gotten to yet so far i am enjoying the reading.

thanks

Travis
 
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