Need to ID this weirdo ammo!

[burnt45]

Can anyone shed some light on this ammo?

1st pic shows WRA stamp(Winchester), about 45 cal, 2 3/8" long. Not sure if they're blanks or bird-shot for 45-70?

2nd pic has a pin-fire approx 30 cal...... A big center-fire paper/cardboard case approx 55 cal, 2.4" long........ and then last but not least some kinda big Olympic torch lookin weirdo thing about 50 cal.

Do you recognize these? What kind of guns would they be used in?

Thanks!

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[NB.nagantsniper]

top photo maybe 43 mausers ?

bottom photo paper looking cartridge maybe 577 snider ?\

the one thats ice cream cone shape i know is a burnside carbine round from usa civil war era

 

[green]

1)43 Mauser blank 11.15x60R
2).577" Snider ball MKIX
9mm PF
54 Burnside

 

[Ghostsaww]

Damn.... you're good!

 

[burnt45]

Thanks guys.
I don't think the pinfire is 9mm though, it mic'd at about .30..... what used pinfires anyway?

 

[ipscgraz]

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[paulz]

Thanks guys.
I don't think the pinfire is 9mm though, it mic'd at about .30..... what used pinfires anyway?

Mostly old obsolete revolvers. Didn't survive the evolution of the centre fire. The Belgians made a bunch of weird revolvers in all sorts of calibres.

 

[bclinehand]

Not a 7mm pin fire used in boer war ?
I have one at home