Need to remove bolt and store separately for semi-auto?

V

Verdical Driver

Regular
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Location
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Hello... I am a noob, I will be taking my PAL and RPAL course next week. Sorry if the answer to this question is elsewhere in the forums, but I did a search of the forums and couldn't find anything...

The RCMP instructions for storing a firearm state:

"For an automatic firearm, also remove the bolt or bolt carrier (if removable) and lock it in a separate room that is hard to break into."

Now, when they say "automatic firearm", are they talking about any semi-automatic firearm, or only fully-auto firearms? If I purchase a gun safe to store an unrestricted semi-auto rifle for example, would I need to purchase a separate locked container to store the bolt? Normally I would think that an "automatic firearm" only refers to a fully-auto firearm, but since a fully-auto firearm is prohibited why would they bother to even mention it?

I am planning to order a safe right now, because there is a delay for delivery/installation... I am hoping to only have to purchase one single gun safe that I can use to store everything. Sorry if it is a stupid question, but I rather ask a stupid question than make a stupid mistake. :)
 
Last edited:
no, you can store it fully assembled in a safe. storing disassembled leads to headaches later on, and repeated assembly/disassembly can wear parts prematurely. automatic in this case refers "automatic loading".
 
A trigger or action lock is also acceptable for a non-restricted semi, you don't need to remove the bolt carrier.

For restricted, unless you have a safe, a trigger/action lock, and the whole thing stored in a locked case.
 
It seems to me, a safe would be the best option then. As I understand it now, as long as all the guns are stored unloaded, I can put any restricted and unrestricted guns, ammo, and everything else all in the safe, and be in compliance.

Even though a safe is expensive, it seems like it is the simplest and most foolproof way to make sure everything is legal.
 
Verdical Driver said:
It seems to me, a safe would be the best option then. As I understand it now, as long as all the guns are stored unloaded, I can put any restricted and unrestricted guns, ammo, and everything else all in the safe, and be in compliance.

Even though a safe is expensive, it seems like it is the simplest and most foolproof way to make sure everything is legal.
Click to expand...

That is correct.
 
If you are able to bolt your safe to your floor it would be even better. Just in the unlikely case that your residence was robbed, it would show you took that extra step.
 
Not to Hijack your thread but a quesiton along the same lines.
Just waiting for my RPAL to finish up and want to confirm my storage plan.
UNRestricted in a plastic case locked and with trigger lock and then i might even lock the case to somthing in my house.
Restricted tigger lock and locked case in my safe ( Safe is not bolted to the floor but it is almost a bank vault it weights over 800lbs it took 4 guys and a appliance dolly to move it into my basement. Its not a true gun safe but it should do right?

Can i also store the ammo for both firearms in this safe? The only person that knows the code is me my wife doesnt even know it. The deal is if i die and she needs in get a lock smith.

Thanks for letting me borrow your thread :p
 
Virtualdodo said:
Not to Hijack your thread but a quesiton along the same lines.
Just waiting for my RPAL to finish up and want to confirm my storage plan.
UNRestricted in a plastic case locked and with trigger lock and then i might even lock the case to somthing in my house.
Restricted tigger lock and locked case in my safe ( Safe is not bolted to the floor but it is almost a bank vault it weights over 800lbs it took 4 guys and a appliance dolly to move it into my basement. Its not a true gun safe but it should do right?

Can i also store the ammo for both firearms in this safe? The only person that knows the code is me my wife doesnt even know it. The deal is if i die and she needs in get a lock smith.

Thanks for letting me borrow your thread :p
Click to expand...

In a safe even the restricteds don't need a trigger lock or case. You are way beyond what the law requires, so don't worry. You can put all the ammo you want in there with the guns.

The wife not knowing the code is a good thing if she doesn't have a RPAL.
 
Verdical Driver said:
... Now, when they say "automatic firearm", are they talking about any semi-automatic firearm, or only fully-auto firearms? ...
Click to expand...

They are talking about full auto firearms. The reason that it is mentioned in the regulations is that those who legally possessed full autos before the rules changed in 1978 are allowed to keep them.
 
Im also a newb looking at my first handgun purchase and got a couple questions. In the manual it says that the gun needs to be rendered inoperable and locked in a securely locked container.


I have one of these right now

http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/3/HouseHome/SafetySecurity/FireSafes/PRDOVR~0460030P/Sentry%252BSafe%252BFire-Safe%252B1120.jsp?locale=en

yay or nay?

Or am i better off with something like below?

http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/3/HouseHome/SafetySecurity/FireSafes/PRDOVR~0460036P/Garrison%252BDigital%252BSecurity%252BSafe.jsp?locale=en

My understanding is both are legal, but with the safe i wouldnt need a trigger lock, am i correct?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom