New 10/22 or a good clone?

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I'm looking at a ruger 10/22 target but for a little more I can get a dlask dar22 and I do like the integral rail and fluted barrel but it only comes in 16.5 inches and I like the 20 inch barrel. Is there anybody else make an as good or better 10/22 knock off?

Alternatively I can get a green mountain barrel and sell the new target barrel on EE.
 
If you have the money and want to wait, milarms can order you a Volquarten gun. Wanstalls has the tactical solutions 22 and a magnum research 22.
IMO lightyears better than a stock 10/22. Joe is great to deal with from Dlask and I'm guessing alot of people would back me saying this.
Remember though, most of the dlask barrels are match ammo only and won't work with cheap/bulk ammo. I know is because I owned an 8" dlask barrel.
Just so you know, his barrels are wicked, very wicked heavy. The tactical solutions, volquartsen and mag resh barrels are all less than 1 lbs. So if weight is an issue, dlask barrels are not for you!
 
I had a 10/22 with some Dlask parts, it was a great shooter. You never know how much you like what you've got until you sell it. I'm still kicking myself for getting rid of it. IMO, Dlask makes a better product. Nothing wrong with the original barrel, although there isn't much to say about an "off the line" gun.
 
What kinda weight are we talking here? I'm looking to pick up a 12.5 bull from Dlask for a short fun plinker. Will the weight make it uncomfortable to shoot standing or carry around?
 
Dlask barrels don't weigh any more than any other barrel of equal specs... A 16" steel .920" barrel is going to weigh the same no matter who makes it... It is not fair to compare an aluminum barrel to a steel barrel. Dlask also makes sporter contoured and stepped barrels, if you are looking for something lighter... Dlask has a Bentz Match (Xtreme) chamber which is accurate but as with all tighter chambers you need to find the right ammo for good function... BUT, Dlask also makes a sporter chamber if you want to cycle a wider range of ammunition. As with any company's chambers, you have to decide what your priority is; either extreme accuracy OR extrme function... The reason that the Ruger OEM sporter chamber functions with everything is because it is "sloppy," which is also why its not very accurate. The Dlask DAR22 is light years ahead of the Ruger OEM 10/22... Get a trigger job done when you order it.
 
Gillen1 said:
What kinda weight are we talking here? I'm looking to pick up a 12.5 bull from Dlask for a short fun plinker. Will the weight make it uncomfortable to shoot standing or carry around?
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IMO yes unless you are Arnold. A 20" dlask bull barrel is very heavy. Most people use it for benchrest shooting. If your shooting standing or carring your gun, please, please look at the tac sol, volquart or mag resh barrels. You'll thank me later! FYI even a 12.5" barrel is noticeably louder than a 16" barrel. A 7-8" barrel in ungodly without earplugs.
 
little_airwolf said:
IMO yes unless you are Arnold. A 20" dlask bull barrel is very heavy. Most people use it for benchrest shooting. If your shooting standing or carring your gun, please, please look at the tac sol, volquart or mag resh barrels. You'll thank me later! FYI even a 12.5" barrel is noticeably louder than a 16" barrel. A 7-8" barrel in ungodly without earplugs.
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What is a good company to look at for other barrels? Thing is I want short so Dlask seems to be the best bet so far. And if it's louder, that sounds more fun!
 
A Dlask 0.920 12.5" barrel really isn't that heavy. I've slung mine while tromping through heavy bush deer hunting and you can barely tell it's there. Off hand shooting is perfectly comfortable. A longer barrel is obviously going to be heavier and biased towards the front a bit more balance wise, but I don't find my 18" heavy barreled 10/22 to be a "bench only" gun, still very doable for off hand shooting. The 10/22 Target specs at 7.5lb from the factory, that really isn't heavy...and that's with a 20" heavy barrel. If you have problems carrying or shooting that, then you will also have problems carrying or shooting most average centerfire rifles or shotguns.

There is no reason you can't shoot bulk ammo with a Dlask barrel. Like hoyt said, Dlask does have two chambers available. I've had a 9" (not Dlask) and a 12.5" Dlask, both with Bentz chambers, and never had an issue. Out of probably 20 different ammo types I've tried, I've only had 1 that didn't want to run 100% (Winchester target, everything else from the very very very cheap stuff to higher end stuff has been perfect, not a single malfunction). The only thing you can't run with a Bentz chamber is Stinger cases (as they are longer).

As far as noise goes, the 12.5" has noticeably more report than a 16+" barrel, but it's still fairly quiet. Standard velocities without hearing pro isn't uncomfortable. My 9" was noticeably louder, it's still a rimfire (so it's not thaaaat loud), but the report is sharper and more uncomfortable without hearing pro. The Dlask XB5 definitely helps direct that noise forward though. I'd strongly recommend Dlask, been very happy with every product I've bought from them, and plan on building another 10/22 on a DAR22 receiver soon.

Gillen1 I'd definitely recommend the 12.5", after my 9" build I talked to a few people (including hoyt) and they told me the same thing. The 12.5" is a perfect compromise between size/weight/accuracy/noise/balance/etc I find, if you are wanted to build a compact gun. I carried mine around up north this year for grouse and it worked perfectly. Accuracy has been great, and 0.5" (or better groups) at 50 yards are the norm consistently. I've shot it out to 200 yards with no issues. My 9" really opened up outside of 50 yards.
 
Thanks for the info Fyn. I'm in the same position as the OP, and am looking at a Dlask 12.5" DAR-22. Do you feel that the 12.5" was quiet enough to not require ear protection? You mention that you are planning a new rifle based on the DAR-22 receiver. Are you going to stick with a Dlask barrel, or another manufacturers?

Thanks,
Cal.
 
I feel it was quiet enough. Probably not a bad idea to where hearing pro either way, I obviously do at the range either way. But for informal plinking sessions and such, it certainly isn't bad. That being said I primarily shoot standard velocity (though the high velocity stuff isn't too loud either). It is noticeably louder than say a 18-20" barrel, but it is still very bearable, and no where near as loud as my 9" was. I also work in a trade with lots of loud tools, so YMMV depending on the individual.

I recently converted my 10/22 to 17mach2 (just to try something new), so the Dlask barrel is off at the moment. I'm debating switching to a DAR 22 receiver on that rifle, and possibly putting together a second 10/22 with the factory receiver and 12.5" Dlask. Not sure if the funds will permit that just yet though lol. I would honestly strongly recommend going with a Dlask barrel. They are easily available (no need to custom order one, get one imported, yadda yadda), they do a great job at providing products for the Canadian market (ie; short barrels and such), and the price is right. My 12.5" shoots far better than I anticipated, 0.5-0.6" groups all day with CCI SV's (my best group was a 0.332" @ 50 yards).
 
Hoytcanon;
Your multiple buildings like the red and blue ones, shown above, inspired me to switch from a Hogue stock to a Boyds on my 12.5" DAR-22. So far I love the stock, can you recommend a bipod and mounting system for the Boyds SS Evolution?

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Tom E Gun said:
Hoytcanon;
Your multiple buildings like the red and blue ones, shown above, inspired me to switch from a Hogue stock to a Boyds on my 12.5" DAR-22. So far I love the stock, can you recommend a bipod and mounting system for the Boyds SS Evolution?

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The bipod depends on what you want to spend... you can't go wrong with a Harris... 6-9" if it is for the bench or car hood... 9-13" for prone shooting and the 27" for sitting. You can stud mount the bipod or epoxy bed a rail as you can see on my builds above... I use two #10 X 1" stainless screws and seat the rail in high shear black golf shaft epoxy... other epoxies will work, but use black as it is invisible under the rail when the excess is wiped away... the rail is a stronger mount than a stud... if you go with a stud, dab epoxy on the threads to ensure a positive anchor for the bipod.
 
Thanks for the advice HC. I was looking at the harris 6"-9" with the notched legs today at Wholesale Sports, but would really like a quick detach system rather than what looks like a slow and finicky stud mount. Is that a quick detach system on your 10" black and silver rifles?
 
Tom E Gun said:
Thanks for the advice HC. I was looking at the harris 6"-9" with the notched legs today at Wholesale Sports, but would really like a quick detach system rather than what looks like a slow and finicky stud mount. Is that a quick detach system on your 10" black and silver rifles?
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On my rimfire rifles I am using UTG Tactical bipods with picatinny rail mounts... you can also get rail mounts for Harris bipods, which is what I use on my centerfire rifles... the UTG units are pretty dang good for the money though...
 
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