New 2012 shorty, quick impressions.

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So I picked up another 18.5" M305 yesterday (if we could get buying Norc M14s classified as an addiction, would clinics start handing clean ones out for free??).

I gave it a once-over in the store (mostly to check indexing, make sure it wasn't a welded receiver, look for obvious signs of "Friday afternoon quality control") and it looked fine. In fact, it looked really good. My other two are 2011 builds and this is a 2012. The parkerizing is a solid, even black, the flash hider looks good, the sights seem to click and move positively (for now) and everything's straight. The op-rod was well-fitted and lined up perfectly with the piston, and even with the stock spring and spring guide the action felt surprisingly smooth.

What really struck me though, was the trigger group. The pull was a steady first stage followed by a crisp 5-6lb break, and the safety flicked on and off with a touch. That last part wowed me, I could even work it silently if I was careful. Definitely no long hours of finger-f**king needed ;)

I guess I just posted this to say that the quality of these rifles still seems to be improving by leaps and bounds. If you've been disappointed in the past, it might be worth taking another look.

*edit* I picked it up at North Pro in Saskatoon for $449. Great little store. They've still got a couple left I think.
 
I have a new Ram Laramie Longhorn with ram boxes, thinking of getting another shorty, get a nice collapsible stock for it and mounting it in one of the ram boxes as a truck gun. Think it would be a cool project.
 
I got one inbound, sorry for the noob question, how do you see if its over indexed?

I like to stick a 5/20 mag in, stand it on it's butt on the ground and look straight down the barrel* and see how well the barrel, gas system and magazine align. If they look all lined up it's probably good to go. It's also an easy way to see if your flash hider or sight base are machined crooked.

There's more precise ways, but for quick & dirty peace of mind this works for me.



*ACTS & PROVE first of course
 
UPS delivered my first m305b today, it was soaked in oil. took me a good 2hrs to clean it up. I found the barrel and gas system isnt straight... However i wonder if my rifle is over indexed or under ... Anyone knows if the barrel screws clockwise or counter clockwise into the receiver? thanks


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Righty-tighty, lefty-loosey.

The definitive point of reference for barrel indexing is the gas port. It should be at exactly 6 o'clock.
 
that means mine is over indexed... how to correct the problem?

Over-indexed can be more complicated to fix than under, I'd suggest PM'ing Hungry. If you're anywhere near where he'll be conducting a clinic this summer do whatever it takes to attend, not only can you likely get your indexing sorted out, but anything else that might need tweaking too.
 
When Thomas took the barrel off my m305, he said he had never seen a riffle with such a loosely attached barrel. He didn't even have to put pressure on his wrench for it to come off. The issue was that the gun was 'over-indexed' as is, so now the front sight sits on even more of a right leaning angle but the chamber went from 1.639 to like 1.637 or something. I moved the front sight as far left as I could and it actually shoots POA and doesn't look retarded like an SKS or 858 looks when you have to do this.

I was a bit concerned that my op rod wasn't going to free slide back and forth on a 30 degree angle like before, but it's still properly aligned so that was nice.

I also had to resize all my brass because I'm one of those idiots that neck size reloads.

In sum, aligning my barrel reduced a bit of headspace but threw off my front sights even more. It wasn't a big deal really, mainly because I didn't do the work lol
 
Well hopefully 3rd time won't be a charm for you bro

Speaking of which, this will be the 3rd date I take this girl out on tonight wish me luck trololol

Chinese girls make you pay for ERRYTING! sheesh
 
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