New 22. Help Me Choose...

Hey guys,

Looking to get a .22 to get back into rifle shooting after a 10 years hiatus.

Primary usage will be at a range, looking for a respectable shooter in a production rifle. I would guess the primary use would be 50-100yds... Likely put a 4 to 12-16x etc. Perhaps add a bi-pod. Would take it to the bush once or twice a year.

I'm all over the map in terms of what to buy. Hoping for some opinions here, so let them fly...

Please no "build one" replies. I'm not looking to build anything right now.


Criteria:

-Bolt (leaning towards bolt, but semi suggestions are fine)

-16-20" barrel, heavy or carbon is fine

-Synthetic stock, although I wouldn't say no to a nice wood suggestion. I do like the idea of adjustability, but I don't want a bulky bench only rig.

-Budget is decent


Below are some rifles I have researched and have some interest in.

CZ-457 Varmint PT (Hard to find as now disco) - Top end of price range too.
Tikka T1X UPR - about as adjustable as I'd want
Bergara BMR/BXR Carbon - Cant find a BXR anywhere...
Christensen Ranger Carbon - Love the overall visual

Dark Horse Pick: Grey Birch Carbon? (semi)



Are there other companies like Grey Birch I am missing, that offer a complete build? I am very intrigued at that rifle.
I'm not into Dlask/TUFF, but maybe I'm not looking at the right stuff, I don't know.... Seems a bit confusing to me with my knowledge at this point.


Would love to hear suggestions. Thanks

Without a price limit, everyone is guessing.
Since you mention 50 - 100 target and bush, have you been to the local clubs to talk with owners and users?

From what I see at the local clubs, and your comments . . . Tikka or CZ457. Both respond well with match ammo.
 
RE concept of saving money on the rifle (going cheaper), so as to have more money for ammo:

Yes technically there is some math truth to that concept for the first short while. But if you get into it, the savings quickly become insignificant to negligible. I have spent many times the cost of my two CZ rimfire rifles in cases of rimfire target ammo over the years. e.g. My first purchased case of target ammo (5,000 rounds of SK) cost twice as much as my first CZ 452 brand new! Several cases of ammo later, I realize the extra cost of the CZ over lower priced brands at the time was was not a factor when considering the decades of shooting I will do with it.

Adding a quality scope will often cost much more than the rifle. You can get by with cheap scopes and save some money, but these scopes are cheap for a reason. I think the decision on the optic is the main one to rationalize for your budget. My advice is don't cheap out on the rifle if you don't have to.

For target shooting, I would suggest a longer barrel, at least 20 inches, but also longer.

I chose my two CZ's (452 and 455) light hunting models to have iron sights. I scoped both of them, but I take the scope off sometimes and shoot irons for fun. I did not see that in your criteria, but thought I would mention it just in case. If your budget allows, I would suggest adding the Anschutz 1761 Classic with iron sights to your list if you were interested in iron sights.

Based on your criteria I suggest also considering the Anschutz 1761 Silhouette to the list. I don't own one, but have shot a buddy's Silhouette at my local range. They have that wonderful Anschutz trigger, shoot very accurately, are repeaters, and they sometimes beat the single shot target Anschutz target models in local matches at my range. Light enough for comfortable offhand shooting, and great for bench and bags, and bipod. And if you ever wanted to use aperture sights, the barrel muzzle has the dovetail. The Anschutz rail under the forearm is easily adapted to picatinny mounts with the Atlas AFAR rail which slides into the Anschutz rail. Or for a sling stud mount bipod you use the Anschutz rail sling stud adapter. The MPOD bipod slides directly into the rail. For Arca mounts an Arca plate can be attached with Anschutz T nuts, which Atlas and others make. Thought I would mention these because I find that the average local gun shop does not provide alot of support for Anschutz stock rail adapters. Shops like Nordic Marksman and Tesro can provide advice and support for Anschutz forearm rail adapters. I really like the Anschutz forearm rail because its infinitely adaptable to many attachments, and involves no drilling of a stock.

I suggest buying quality and what you want. You will enjoy using it more. A quality rimfire, well cared for, will outlive you, and you can hand it down lovingly to the next generation in your family. Or if you decide sell it later, it should retain reasonable resale value.

Good luck with your choice.

Thank you, and I subscribe to this way of thinking for many purchases in life. You’re nearly never happy when you compromise for a lower price. Works for some people and that’s okay with me, but typically I just list for what I actually had my eyes on in the first place.

ANSCHÜTZ does interest me, most likely a sportsman/hunting model. But it is a different direction than I originally stipulated, although not out of the question yet.
 
After spending years chasing and following many 10/22 platforms and makes, even trying the high end bolt rifles, I ended up wanting to try something new.

I debated on a cz bolt action because of the accuracy they have, and then looked at the anschutz 1710 models. I've been looking at the 1710 for a few years since falling in love with the XLR chassis, which they have a model that sits in this chassis.

What I ultimately settled on was the 1727 fortner straight pull action. Man what a surprise this has been. The action is just AMAZING! I have chassed a new stock for this action for months now, and finally found someone to be able to make one. Nothing wrong with the great walnut stock is comes with, I just wanted it more for bench shooting. The problem lies in the lack of inlets for this stock, as there are just not a lot of them actions around. I have a new stock, color that I want coming in from Germany, and when it arrives I'll be sending my action out to get custom fitted for the new stock. Hopefully that is not long now.

If money allows, get what you dream about, as it only costs more to work up to it later, plus the loss of time getting there!

Yea, I have looked at a lot of different platforms to decide what direction I wanted to go, and I'm sure I've also missed a few in the previous post.
 
If you want to be different, there's always the Browning T-bolt

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Brno Mod 2, CZ 452, 455, 457 all good rifles. I currently own a Brno Mod 4 (long, bull (and I mean bull) barrel, a CZ 452 (extra fancy walnut, and they have such a gracefully tapered barrel. I have owned a 455 Military Trainer. None had synthetic stocks; all are fine rifles.

If you can't find the one with the stock you want, buy one in wood and shoot it until you find the exact rifle you want. They hold their value, so you could sell the one you don't want later and likely either break even or make a few bucks. These are the solidest .22s available presently. Extremally accurate and precise shooters.
 
I recommend tikka. Thought I heard some not so great reviews about the ca ranger. I just can't see anyone being disappointed in the t1x.

This guy, I bought one hoping for better accuracy than my Savage Mk2. Didn't come close. I will say it is a well built rifle. If you have the funds CZ457 would be my choice. Savage Mk2 does shoot way beyond it's price point however.
 
CZ 457 Varmint, excellent trigger, 20" heavy barrel, fits me perfect, 60 degree bolt, couldn`t be happier. Second choice would be the Tikka.
 
Tikka T1x would probably be the best place to start. It wears a Tikka T3x stock and has the same trigger group as their centerfire rifles too. Meaning, even a trigger spring upgrade is as easy as could be, substitute any stock in that line-up, etc.

More than that, it cycles/loads/ejects like it should and mine shoots more ammo types accurately than any 22 I've owned. I've only had a couple of Savage 22s and neither shot amazingly well. Actually, had a Rascal too-it was the most accurate.

Guess I'll also add=I'm not sure 1 rifle will do everything amazingly well, I think heavy barrels are great on the bench or shooting prone...but the experience of carrying one through the woods gets old fast. Guns like the T1x have what might be considered a "medium taper" barrel, not skinny/not varmint-weight. I haven't shot the 16" T1x, but I would suggest the regular MPR (not UPR) if you want a fast-handling gun in the woods.
 
Guess I'll also add=I'm not sure 1 rifle will do everything amazingly well, I think heavy barrels are great on the bench or shooting prone...but the experience of carrying one through the woods gets old fast.

Very true! I cannot even imagine carrying my heavy Anschutz target rifle out in the bush for hunting.

You "need" two (at least two) .22 rimfires: one handy light model for hunting that you can carry all day and comfortably shoot offhand; and one heavy model for target shooting at the range. :)
 
My CZ 457 V-MTR weighs 12# with an Athlon scope and Atlas-clone bipod. Take a pound off for the bipod, still lotta weight to drag thru the woods. No worries on a bench. My Sav 64 only weighs half incl a scope.
 
Thanks for even more feedback guys. I think it’s going to be some sort of CZ or Tikka, they seem to be the most consistently loved bolts across the forum and other channels/reviews, plus they both shoot well.

An Anchutz 1416 is still burning a picture in the back of my brain as well, just a beautiful gun…

Starting to narrow it down. Thanks again…
 
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Thanks for even more feedback guys. I think it’s going to be some sort of CZ or Tikka, they seem to be the most consistently loved bolts across the forum and other channels/reviews, plus they both shoot well.

An Anchutz 1710 is still burning a picture in the back of my brain as well, just a beautiful gun…

Starting to narrow it down. Thanks again…

Excellent choices there, they do all shoot well it just comes down to which one feels right for you.
 
I have a CZ 457 varmint. My only complaint would be the weight. I use it mainly off a bench for backyard target practice but dragging through the woods would make me wish for a lighter one. I would have considered a T1X but I prefer a wood stock.
 
I have a CZ 457 varmint. My only complaint would be the weight. I use it mainly off a bench for backyard target practice but dragging through the woods would make me wish for a lighter one. I would have considered a T1X but I prefer a wood stock.

That is why I'm hanging on to my 452; from the bench my Brno Mod 4 does a good job holding it down. 10+pounds without sights, scope, bipod. CZs with varmint or target weight barrels are not made for carrying.
 
My first CZ was a 452 Thumbhole Varmint. Sleek, shot well but was like dragging an anchor in the gopher patch. Soon traded it off for my 452 Lux. Three other 452's followed. Scout, Ultra lux and a FS. I do prefer the Lux over my CIL/ Anschutz 310. The Anschutz 1710 DKL tops them all though.
 
The CZ's 452's and 453's.
Older numbered Brnos.

The T-Bolts are stiff when new and have the lawyer'in trigger even with the adjustment.

Find an old T-Bolt as they are often more user friendly.
Beware of the salt wood.

Not much mention of the old woodies any more?
 
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