New 686 woes.

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Hey guys,

I just got a NIB 686 6" yesterday and after a little shooting (100 +/- rounds) have discovered that it regularly light strikes in double action. The ammo was WWB USA and WinClean both .38 and .357 produced the same results. Any ideas?

As well, I'm new to revolvers and .357 but it seems that my face and arms are being blasted by bits of something or other while firing. This normal?
 
take the grips off, and check that the strain screw in the front-strap of the grip frame is screwed in all the way. It is common for people to turn them out to get a lighter DA pull
 
I agree with the strain screw. Many a new owner has been of the impression that backing it off makes for a lighter trigger. While this is true initially, it actually results in light strikes and an unreliable weapon. Perhaps the previous seller had backed it off or may have left the factory that way, but if that is the problem, its a simple fix.
You will love that gun when its running properly.
Cheers
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I'll check it out tomorrow, but It's a new gun, I've never taken the grip off, let alone messed with the screw.

Thanks, guys.
 
Theory said:
As well, I'm new to revolvers and .357 but it seems that my face and arms are being blasted by bits of something or other while firing. This normal?
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Can't help you with the first question, but this is normal. It's just pieces of unburned powder escaping through the gap between the cylinder and the barrel. Such is the nature of revolvers.

More reason to wear safety glasses at all times.
 
All new firearms require a trigger job due to frivolous U.S. law suits. Have that done first. Then change ammo. A BNIB revolver should not need any mucking about with the strain screw.
"...This normal?..." Yep. That's why you should always wear eye protection.
 
My friends 686 soft strike certain primers too, but those were on his hand loads. I think he was using CCI primers for those .357's. I put them in my model 19-3 and fired fine b/c the firing pin is on the hammer not separate.
 
sunray said:
All new firearms require a trigger job due to frivolous U.S. law suits. Have that done first. Then change ammo. A BNIB revolver should not need any mucking about with the strain screw.
"...This normal?..." Yep. That's why you should always wear eye protection.
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I don't think it's very responsible for you to say all new firearms require a trigger job. Some new shooters might actually believe that nonsense. With that many posts I'm surprised you would make such a generalised comment. And the reference to lawsuits??? The shooter could start with some different ammo and if the problem persists take it to a gunsmith for a check-up.
 
Theory said:
Hey guys,

I just got a NIB 686 6" yesterday and after a little shooting (100 +/- rounds) have discovered that it regularly light strikes in double action. The ammo was WWB USA and WinClean both .38 and .357 produced the same results. Any ideas?

As well, I'm new to revolvers and .357 but it seems that my face and arms are being blasted by bits of something or other while firing. This normal?
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Did you lube it?

No? Then put a DROP of oil on either side of the hammer and on the backside too. Put a drop on either side of the trigger.

Try some Federal ammo too.

There is nothing that needs doing to the revolver at this time, and possibly never.
 
BC Mike said:
I don't think it's very responsible for you to say all new firearms require a trigger job. Some new shooters might actually believe that nonsense. With that many posts I'm surprised you would make such a generalised comment. And the reference to lawsuits??? The shooter could start with some different ammo and if the problem persists take it to a gunsmith for a check-up.
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He's saying that most US made firearms come set up with extra heavy triggers due to previously frivilous lawsuits against manufacturers. This is true for the most part.
 
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rgv said:
take the grips off, and check that the strain screw in the front-strap of the grip frame is screwed in all the way. It is common for people to turn them out to get a lighter DA pull
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I've done this myself. I adjusted it lighter for my handloads with CCI primers then found that I was getting about one misfire in 6 with Winchester factory ammo. So I tightened the screw and the problem went away.
 
762shooter said:
I've done this myself. I adjusted it lighter for my handloads with CCI primers then found that I was getting about one misfire in 6 with Winchester factory ammo. So I tightened the screw and the problem went away.
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Interesting. I've heard this before, but never had this problem with CCI primers.
 
762shooter said:
I've done this myself. I adjusted it lighter for my handloads with CCI primers then found that I was getting about one misfire in 6 with Winchester factory ammo. So I tightened the screw and the problem went away.
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Just so you people know, the mainspring strain screw isn't an adjustment screw, it's meant to be bottomed out in the frame grip.
 
BC Mike said:
(Referring to sunray's post) "I don't think it's very responsible for you to say all new firearms require a trigger job. Some new shooters might actually believe that nonsense. With that many posts I'm surprised you would make such a generalized comment..."
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Clearly, BC Mike, you haven't been reading any of sunray's posts. :rolleyes:
(If you had, you would not be surprised.)
 
Checked the screw this morning, it's as tight as it'll go. Spoke to MD Charlton about it and they tell me "that's not right, we'll fix it." So I mailed the gun to Victoria today. I also decided to get some other work done while it's there like a trigger job and bead blast. So the bad news is, my new gun is out of town for a while. The good news is she'll be all dolled up when she gets home.
 
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