New BR Score Record

I just want to say that there has not been any movement on Score records for years. The one I broke was set in 1991. The current 200 yard record was set in 2005.

Where a ton of records are broken and set every year is in Group shooting. Especially by the guys in the west. In 2018 the BRSC Group shooters rewrote the record book with 13 Canadian records and 18 Canadian International records.

But we never hear about that here.
 
Score shooting isn't easy... I remember in the 70's when Terry McCracken experimented with a 45 caliber figuring if he could get it to shoot 1/2 inch groups he would be able to wipe out the dot often... the recoil was too much...

Your 250 - 21X is going to stand for awhile... hopefully you can break it...
 
guntech said:
That isn't the IBS target used... 250 -21X ... I believe it would have been shot on five targets and most likely in five relays... not all at once on one target with 25 bulls...

If you want to have cheap fun use this target with a maximum of a 6X scope and a 10 pound factory rifle... you know - like a hunter rifle... you will score very few 50's let alone very many X's.

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Thanks i was thinking 25 bull rimfire target. I realized afterwards that the centefire target is only 5 bulls but forgot to edit my post.
 
Hey Guntech, are you one of the seven signers of the Letters Patent for Bench Rest Shooters Canada in 1974? If it was not for founding fathers like you, we would not have a sanctioning body organization to have Canadian bench rest records recognized. I can't read all the signatures on the document. Perhaps you could fill in the blanks?
 
guntech said:
Score shooting isn't easy... I remember in the 70's when Terry McCracken experimented with a 45 caliber figuring if he could get it to shoot 1/2 inch groups he would be able to wipe out the dot often... the recoil was too much...

Your 250 - 21X is going to stand for awhile... hopefully you can break it...
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I've read debates over the years on whats harder to shoot, score or group. Ive also heard it said that a great score gun can shoot great groups but a great group gun might not do so well shooting for score. Im not sure if thats true or not.
 
Dwayne Cyr said:
Hey Guntech, are you one of the seven signers of the Letters Patent for Bench Rest Shooters Canada in 1974? If it was not for founding fathers like you, we would not have a sanctioning body organization to have Canadian bench rest records recognized. I can't read all the signatures on the document. Perhaps you could fill in the blanks?
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I might have been... Al Mirdoch (deceased) was probably one... I was Match and Records Chairman for a year or two in the early 70's and one of the 12 founders of the Namaka Bench Rest Club. Al did a lot of organizing back then. If it wasn't for him it wouldn't have happened.

If you want to send me a copy I will see if I can decipher or recognize any names... sorensens at shaw.ca - do the @ thing

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Calvin sent me a copy of the signatures... it brought back memories. I remember Al bringing in paperwork to sign when I was working at Barotto Sports in Calgary.

Dennis Sorensen. Al Mirdoch, Terry McCracken (McCracken Bullets), Robin Timmerman (Manager of Barotto's at that time), Doug Ollenbittle (Postal worker if I remember correctly), Bruce Cameron (Started Big Foot Motorcycle after retiring), Steve Zibresky (plumbing Inspector).

Only Steve and I are still around.
 
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Here in NB they shoot a similar 5 bull and a sighter target but shoot 2 shots per bull and 3 targets for a possible 300 30x.
 
guntech said:
I might have been... Al Mirdoch (deceased) was probably one... I was Match and Records Chairman for a year or two in the early 70's and one of the 12 founders of the Namaka Bench Rest Club. Al did a lot of organizing back then. If it wasn't for him it wouldn't have happened.

If you want to send me a copy I will see if I can decipher or recognize any names... sorensens at shaw.ca - do the @ thing

PS
Calvin sent me a copy of the signatures... it brought back memories. I remember Al bringing in paperwork to sign when I was working at Barotto Sports in Calgary.

Dennis Sorensen. Al Mirdoch, Terry McCracken (McCracken Bullets), Robin Timmerman (Manager of Barotto's at that time), Doug Ollenbittle (Postal worker if I remember correctly), Bruce Cameron (Started Big Foot Motorcycle after retiring), Steve Zibresky (plumbing Inspector).

Only Steve and I are still around.
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See what you started? We have Canadian teams traveling and competing in the Worlds Bench Rest championships around the world and doing well. There's a Canadian industry popping up making bullets and barrels to feed the sport. We have some very tough Group shooters that have come up in the last 6 years and some tough shooters that have been shooting bench rest for over 50 years.
 
Trying to learn a bit more...
What does no allowance for extra distance mean?

Is that referring to yards vs meters?


Congrats on the accomplishment!
 
pauls said:
Trying to learn a bit more...
What does no allowance for extra distance mean?

Is that referring to yards vs meters?


Congrats on the accomplishment!
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It does not mean much. Our range is in meters. The NBRSA rulebook we use says "not less than 100 yards". 100 meters is 109.4 yards which is not less than 100 yards.

So we voluntarily take a 9.4 yard handicap to shoot for records on a metric range. There is currently no metric record book in Canada so we compete against the current Canadian records which are in yards.

200 meters is 218.7 yards. So, its almost a 10% handicap.
 
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Dwayne Cyr said:
It does not mean much. Our range is in meters. The NBRSA rulebook we use says "not less than 100 yards". 100 meters is 109.4 yards which is not less than 100 yards.

So we voluntarily take a 9.4 yard handicap to shoot for records on a metric range. There is currently no metric record book so we compete against the current records which are in yards.

200 meters is 218.7 yards. So, its almost a 10% handicap.
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I’m curious if you ever examined your targets to see if having the target about 10 yards closer would you have got a few more X’s?
 
I thought about that. Just happy to be able to have our matches sanctioned by BRSC.

IBS keeps records for both yards and meters. Their 100 yard record is 250 - 25X w/22 wipe outs. Their 100 meter record is 250 - 24X so 1 x less for meters.

At 200 its worse. Their 200 yard record is 250 - 21X and their 200 meter record is 250 - 14X, so 7 less X's for meters.

It might be that the metric range has more challenging wind conditions.
 
Great job, congratulations. Would you mind sharing your load and prep info unless that's a secret you'd rather not reveal.
 
Dwayne. That is great shooting. im interested in what kind of brass prep your doin in you reload routine . Are you anealing ?
 
I know you are shooting for score but a good score requires a rifle that will group ... I would guess a .30 caliber would need to be grouping less than 1/4 inch to be able to wipe out the dot ... ?
 
The .30's are now the King of score.

Since Kenora started sanctioning the 100 and 200Meter matches, it is time to put a .30 together. Hopefully my .30BR will be ready for the first match of the season if Covid does not cancel it...
 
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