Kodiak99317 said:
What scopes are these? 42x, my guess is NightForce. 50x, a bumped Leo or Burris??
I too find 24x is about max for 1000 yd work on a hot summer's day. I've used 36x in BR, but only looking thru 100-300 yds of mirage
Keith
Keith in my case a bumped Leup... I did some BR shooting and used a fixed 36 Tasco. I just transfered that scope to my f-class gun and ran with that for about 2-3 seasons when I started out. Then I screwed up a couple times in Ottawa just trying to get on. I was either 1 turn too far up or one turn too far down. ya I know it's not rocket science... but I do have trouble seeing those hashings on the turrets.
50 seems like a lot and probably is. I guess it's a little subjective dunno. Maybe I just compensate somehow for days when folks tell me they've got troubles with mirage.
Technically I should be able to dial it back down to about 25 but I've never done it but once and when I did I didn't shoot well. So the image or picture I see downrange I think I compensate better with more power, but that's just me. I don't think think I'd ever start a string and say the mirage went crazy and then dial back down partway through the string. I'll bet there'd be an impact change... in my scope.
Could we say that if you're starting out 25x might be where most folks should start or give consideration?
I have been looking at both the BR style and the NSX Nightforces... I have the Br on loan from a friend but still haven't had time to mess with it. It's the one with the 1/8 clicks and a pile of turns to get to 1000 yards but the turret seems to be marked better compared to my old fixed Tasco so I might not mess up with it. then again I like the Leups because two turns and you're well within getting your 1000 yard zero go one more or one less and you readily see... holy smoke that's way too high or two low a visual reminder which maybe folks just don't need dunno.
What I'd like to know about the Nightforces is if you change magnification do you get an impact change also? Guess I find that out when I mount it.
I think you should be able to see this. For example if you focused on a dot at 100 yards at 42X and carefully zoomed back out will you see movement in the crosshairs in any direction... I guess I can answer that by simply mounting the scope and trying it....
I also tend to agree with Alan in that I've always been a hold-over shooter but I've got a bud who's trying to convince me to crank. I'm having trouble doing it and I think it's related to what Alan said... also I wouldn't do this unless you know the clicks are repeatable... I would say the odds of them being repeatable is higher with Leups and Nightforce scopes over time... still with 1/8 it's a lot of clicking back and forth and this can be compounded by fast switching winds or if you shoot fast... that's why I've always favoured holding over... but you've got to watch out for or track subconsiously what you've got on the gun... if you've been dealing with a couple minutes of right wind and it goes left and you've got to get the shot off you'd better be holding over compensating for the right amount or your not going to like where that bullet will print!
Some folks don't have trouble doing it. I generally don't. If you come from a TR background then I'm sure you might consider clicking like crazy because that's what you've been used to... dunno never did TR outside...
again maybe it's another subjective thing...
I've shot long enough to know exactly what heavy mirage looks like and it's not pretty. When things are boucing around like crazy. Rings... what rings?... for me I just centre up on the mess and let it rip. Somehow I manage to compensate for where-ever the centre of the target it... maybe luck dunno... can't explain it...