New England Revolver Problem. *Pics*

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I just bought a New England Revolver from a fellow CGN'r and have a fwe issues with it. First, i noticed that the trigger pull is abnormaly heavy, the heaviest i've ever felt to be honest. If i had to guesstimate i would say somewhere like a 20lbs trigger pull. In single action, the trigger will be loose right until the last couple of mm of pull, but that last pull is very, very heavy. That was my first issue. Which i am sure can be rectified by someone in the know.
My second problem is when it comes to extract the spent casings. This is my first swivel cylinder revolver so im not really sure if this is normal or not. But when I push inward on the extracting rod to push out the casings, it seems the rims of the cartridges have been hit so hard from the firing pin that coupled with the casings expansion, I can't budge the extracting rod. I end up having to use a seperate rod to punch out the cartridges seperatly.
I have no idea if both problems are related or not. I think all i would need to do to fix the extracting problem would be to file down the firing pin a little so it doesn't hit and deform the rim of the casings so much. But, doing that would not solve the trigger pull problem. :bangHead: Hopefully one of you gunsmiths can give me some pointers on what i should do to fix my baby.
Ill post some pics so you can maybe see what im talking about.

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- These pics shows the dent left behind on the casings from the firing pin. I've never seen such deep dents on a rimfore before.

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- In these pics i'm trying to show how much the firing pin protrudes out from its housing.

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- This is a crappy picture in which im trying to show how big the cylinder's edge "lips" is. Once a cartridge is placed, the rim sits pretty much flush with the lip.

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- Pic of the cylinder closed to show the gap between the cylinder and the frame.

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- Just a pic of the revolver in all its glory :D

Hopefully the pics help out a bit, at least letting you know what model and frame we're looking at. Any help would be greatly apreciated. thanks for reading.

Cheerz,

Rob
 
and, unless i'm mistaken, there isn't a way to adjust that is there. Only to replace it with a different one? But why the heck would they have put such a strong spring in there in the first place :confused: Unless of course this is "normal" and it needs to be broken in. But then again, i can't beleive they would put out their revolvers with such a spring that would result in case deformation and extracting problems.
I've pm'd the guy who i bought it from to try and get more info but it doesnt seem hes logged on to the site in a few days. The pistol doesnt look like its been serviced or taken apart before so i cant imagine there being some after market spring. confusious.
 
Have you had it stripped down at all? The firing-pin indents don't look out of the ordinary, but sticky extraction is, so a good cleaning would probably be your first step. If there's a way to adjust the mainspring tension, it should be apparent if you take off the grip panels.
 
I cleaned her up right before taking her to the range. After all 9 of the casings are dented and warped, it makes it impossible to use the extractor. I have never taken her apart. Not even the grip panels. Ill check that tomorrow. So if there is a mainspring adjustment, what would i be looking for and doing?
 
Most of these types of revolvers are a little bit sticky when it comes to extraction (after all, you're dealing with 9 cases instead of the normal 6), but you should still be able to pop them out by swinging open the cylinder and giving the ejector-rod a smack with your off hand. If there is an adjustment inside the grips, it should be a threaded screw that can be loosened/tightened to give less/more tension against the mainspring. Alternatively, the mainspring might be rubbing against the insides of the grip panels, or you just might have a bunch of grit and grime built up inside the lockwork; it's impossible to tell without seeing it first-hand.
 
How bout a really stupid question, could somone have rechambered this revolver to .22mag? That would explain the hard extractions and stuck cases.

Scott
 
I have a H&R 950 revolver that has a hellish trigger pull too. I just shoot it single action! It is my favorite plinking ammo handgun.
 
RDevigne said:
Does yours have a way to modify the mainspring?
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Yes..there are notches in the grip frame that you can put the main spring "stop" in to adjust the tension on the spring.
I'm embarrassed to admit that I never tried adjusting it. I just got use to shooting it single action. :redface:
 
I just checked mine and my model does not have the option to adjust the mainspring. The "Stop" sits at the butt of the grips. I think she's gonna need some fine tuning as in a bit of filing here and a bit of filing there to make her shoot the way i want. Don't get me wrong, i love the pistol, she looks great and feels great. Nice heavy bull type barrel. I just need to lighten the trigger up and adress this extracting problem somehow.

Cheerz
 
To be honest, the firing pin looks fine :confused: the only thing that could be wrong with is it being a tad too long whichi is an easy fix. But everything is stock so putting in a new firing pin would just end up doingthe same thing. Unless they shortened it since production.
Last night a lubricated the mainspring with Hoppes 9 light gun oil and also lubricated all the mechanism's and gave them a little work out. Took a few shots to see if it wadea difference in trigger pull and it did seem to be lighter! Still a bit tough but seems much better then it was. I'll know for sure once i have time to try it out for a while at the range. The extracting problem is still there. So, if there isn't any other ideas about why this is happening, and if my lube job helped, im just going to go ahead a file just a tiny bit off the tip of the firing pin which should solve the problem. :D

.... I think. :redface:
 
Have you tried extracting 9 unfired shells?
If you move the casings a bit, will they extract?
Have you tried other ammo? I had a rifle with a slightly peened chamber and found that different brass was tighter or looser. Some wouldn't extract, others were fine. Try some target or subsonic ammo, it might be better.

Before you modify the gun, why don't you try asking the question at RimfireCentral. Someone there will have the same gun and give you their experiance.
 
It's only once they are fired that they dont extract from the cylinder. I did try lots of various ammo. I think at least 5. Not subsonic though. Good call on rimfirecentral. Will try that out. Thanks for all you guys help.
 
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