New Factory Refurbished Mosins

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Anyone has information about these ?

The little info that I have is the following:

Mosins (of various types) and Mausers are "reconditioned" in an arms factory in Russia and sold as civilian hunting guns. They are called VPO models.

This particular one is called VPO-103. Note the interesting caliber.

Can anybody provide more details ?


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You should not get overly excited about them - they are 'pinned' in a sense, that by Russian law, every rifled firearm must have a ballistic mark in its barrel. This ballistic mark leaves unigue pattern on a bullet and that pattern is stored in a police database for forensic identification of a firearm, used in a crime. The mark makes rifles much less accurate, than 'unpinned' versions. Plus the reman versions have no historic significance...
 
svt-40 said:
You should not get overly excited about them - they are 'pinned' in a sense, that by Russian law, every rifled firearm must have a ballistic mark in its barrel. This ballistic mark leaves unigue pattern on a bullet and that pattern is stored in a police database for forensic identification of a firearm, used in a crime. The mark makes rifles much less accurate, than 'unpinned' versions. Plus the reman versions have no historic significance...
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Do you have more info on what exactly they are doing? are they putting on new barrels? or new stocks?

With my limited knowledge of the Cyrrilic alphabet, I can read "made in Russia" markings on the receiver (rather than made in USSR) does it mean it's a new receiver?

Are all rifles sold in Russia "pinned" and thus inaccurate? or just the remanufactured ones? I find it hard to believe that all rifles (even hunting and precision ones) are made "inaccurate"...
 
They seem to be remanufactured receivers and stocks. The barrels are likely 91/30 barrels that are shortened and rebored to a larger diameter.

Might be interesting, but I wouldn;t pay alot of money for one.
 
Only those rifled firearms have to be pinned that share military caliber, e.g. 7.62x39, 7.62x54R etc. The calibers, not used in military, like .308 or .223 do not have to be pinned IMHO.
There are two types of rifled firearms sold in Russia - 'certified' pinned versions, legal for commercial sale to public at the licensed stores and 'uncertified' that can only be sold from an individual to individual thru a licensed pawnshop. The Mosins above are commercial, therefore they are pinned. It does not mean that you can hit a barn wall with it, just that instead of 1.5MOA you will be getting 2.5MOA - along these lines.

And on the buttplate it says 'Lucky hunting!' :)

Tozman said:
Do you have more info on what exactly they are doing? are they putting on new barrels? or new stocks?

With my limited knowledge of the Cyrrilic alphabet, I can read "made in Russia" markings on the receiver (rather than made in USSR) does it mean it's a new receiver?

Are all rifles sold in Russia "pinned" and thus inaccurate? or just the remanufactured ones? I find it hard to believe that all rifles (even hunting and precision ones) are made "inaccurate"...
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It was my understanding that the marking pin is in the chamber, and affects only the cartridge case. But I may be mistaken.
 
No, the pin can be in the receiver under the rear sight or under the gas pipe or under the front sight. The earlier the better. Different arsenals (Molotov, Tula etc) put the pins in different places. The worst shooters are those with the pin under the front sight.
 
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