New GSG 16 unboxing....

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Ok fellow rimfire Nutz, I finally bit the bullet and bought a GSG 16 for a range toy.

The pics above show what it's packed like and what it comes with.

There is one tool needed that ISN'T included (boooooo GSG) and that is an Allen wrench/key to remove the "stop block" in the upper receiver. You need to remove this block in order to remove the fire control group (lower) and breech housing. As the last pic shows, it does come with 3 Allen wrenches, but none of them are the right size for that one Allen screw....

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I shot one of those last weekend, my first experience.

It was fun. Brand new gun and a brand new gun owner, he asked me to come along and offer any tips. I told him to make sure the bore is clean and lube the moving parts well (he used motor oil). We must have put close to 400 rounds through it with exactly 2 failures: the first 2 rounds of Aquila out of a full magazine nose-dived into the ramp and failed to chamber. Otherwise there were no failures of any kind with a half dozen different loadings, mostly bulk-packed cheapie loads. I was actually fairly impressed with it.
 
yellowsv said:
I picked one up through Cabelas earlier this year.

It came in a factory hard case which was great.
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Cabelas has been the only company that every shipped me firearms, in hard cases. So might just be a Cabelas exclusive or you're paying for the case in the price.
 
One thing I noticed reading the manual is that it says nothing, nada, zip, zero about lubrication. Can someone who's owned one for a while share what they do to lube the gun?
 
shredder said:
One thing I noticed reading the manual is that it says nothing, nada, zip, zero about lubrication. Can someone who's owned one for a while share what they do to lube the gun?
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I ran mine wet... Open the bolt, and drop in some oil and work the action where I can see that there is metal to metal contact.
 
OkayShooter said:
I bought one new when they first came out and it came just in a cardboard box.
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yellowsv said:
I picked one up through Cabelas earlier this year.

It came in a factory hard case which was great.
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Here is another spanner in the works for you. I bought my GSG-16 at Cabelea's, in person. Came in a cardboard box.

I think there are 2 different GSG-16s out there. There is a black one that is about $140ish more expensive versus the one I bought (tan) on clearance for $400. I am guessing the black one comes in the hard case.

*edit* that is exactly the case *PUN INTENDED* I just checked Cabela's website, the black one (9 1/4 barrel) for $649 comes with the hard case, The GSG16 with the 16 1/4 barrel for ($549) comes with the cardboard box.
 
shredder said:
There is one tool needed that ISN'T included (boooooo GSG) and that is an Allen wrench/key to remove the "stop block" in the upper receiver. You need to remove this block in order to remove the fire control group (lower) and breech housing. As the last pic shows, it does come with 3 Allen wrenches, but none of them are the right size for that one Allen screw....

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if you buy enough accessories for guns like rails of many types from aliexpress. you will find that the 3mm wrench is the most common (thats what you are missin) . i literally have about 2-3 dozens of those wrenches in a box. this on top of having several sets in imperial and in metric, long set and short. loose and folding.
 
Curtton said:
if you buy enough accessories for guns like rails of many types from aliexpress. you will find that the 3mm wrench is the most common (thats what you are missin) . i literally have about 2-3 dozens of those wrenches in a box. this on top of having several sets in imperial and in metric, long set and short. loose and folding.
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I too have several sets of Allen wrenches......so finding the right one was easy. However, it should be included with the gun as you can't fieldstrip it for a proper cleaning without that wrench......
 
shredder said:
I too have several sets of Allen wrenches......so finding the right one was easy. However, it should be included with the gun as you can't fieldstrip it for a proper cleaning without that wrench......
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Hmatt said:
ok Karen…
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I mean he is right. If it includes one to adjust the trigger and one to swap out the front sight. Why not include one to take it down? But needs 2 screw drivers to take the Chicago screws out so don't think meant to field strip.
 
OkayShooter said:
Cabelas has been the only company that every shipped me firearms, in hard cases. So might just be a Cabelas exclusive or you're paying for the case in the price.
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Not sure to be honest...

It was a GSG branded factory case, and the price I got it for was actually CHEAPER than the price from G4C, Tenda, and others that were selling them in cardboard boxes and with only 1 magazine, vs. the 2 that came with mine from Cabelas.

Guess I got a deal 😁
 
I finally got this little beast out to the range today (RDSC in Red Deer AB) for some shootin' fun and to sight it in.

I used the iron (plastic :)) sights first after I ran about 100 rounds through it to break it in a bit. The ammo used was Federal 525 bulk pack 36 gr Champion - your basic plinking ammo. I had a couple of failures to feed in the second magazine - however, I attribute that to breaking in the magazine, as there were no other failures the entire session and I ran about 450 rounds through the gun.

The iron sights were OK, but shooting low at 25 meters. I was going to swap the large aperture for the small one, but the screws are so tight that I was afraid I was going to strip out the heads (not good). Just for kicks and giggles, I mounted a Bushnell AR Optics 1x red dot sight (I call it a Fakecog because it looks like an ACOG ;)) and once I got it on paper and was able to sight it in, I was impressed by this little beast's accuracy. With the red dot and shooting from a bench (no support other than my arms), it would put 5 rounds into a vertical string about 1.5 inches long - with the Federal bulk ammo (forgot to mention that this was at 25 meters).

Using ammo of a little better quality (American Eagle 38gr) I could get all 5 shots into 1 inch - from the bench with the fore end resting on a block and no rear support except my shoulder (again at 25 meters). I had left my phone in my truck so no pictures......😞😞(Ok I had a brain fart....) That Fakecog now has a home on the GSG-16. The trigger is not the greatest (and THAT is an understatement) but if you can shoot a military trigger, you can shoot this one.

Now for the bad news. I mentioned that the screws were so tight on the iron sights that I was afraid I'd strip out the heads, so I decided to wait until I got home to swap out the large aperture sight for the small one. Well, exactly what I was afraid would happen did happen.

Getting the screw OUT wasn't so bad - and yes, I used the proper size screwdriver - but getting it back IN was another story entirely. It was so difficult to get that screw in, I suspect that the hole for it in the small aperture sight was drilled too small. I ended up stripping out the screw slot in the head trying to install the small aperture and finally resorted to vise grips to get the screw back out. Of course, the screw is now mutilated beyond use, and that means there's no rear sight on the gun right now. I've emailed Blue Line Solutions to see about getting another rear sight screw. Since I have the red dot Fakecog on it, I can still shoot it (and even hit what I'm shooting at! 😁).

All in all, it's a fun gun to shoot, and the price of $439 tax in at Sportsmen's Den in Red Deer isn't bad at all. Sportsmen's Den also has Picatinny Rail covers that were just the right length to cover the rails, so I bought those for $15.99 tax in as well.

Reliability was excellent - after the two failures to feed in the second magazine, there were no ammo related failures at all. Those sight screws being so difficult to remove is the only real issue I have with the gun. Now, I just gotta feed the little bugger!!😁😁
 
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GSG stuff does look pretty cool, I question the engineering of most of their guns, way too many small dinky parts, MIM, cast Zinc, plastic, stampings, overly complicated to take down.
Even started disliking my GSG 1911 22 for the same reasons, shoots fine, works well, just too much extra #### to it, and that's just more #### to break eventually.
They are definitely not built to last, and lately from reading warranty issues, Blue Line ain't much help. They use to be a member here at one time too.
 
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