New Guy here with early Norinco M14 mag problems and Flash hider questions . . .

R

RealReglarGuy

New member
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Location
Virginia USA
Hello guys!

My longtime pal of 25+ years gave me a Norinco M14 just like this one:

**Image and video linking functions will be enabled after you have contributed more to the forum**

On the heel of receiver is stamped:

M14 SPORTER
NORINCO CHINA
C.A.I. ST ALB VT

On the left side of receiver is stamped:
C003XX

I was hoping you guys could help me with some questions please.

First, here's the info on this rifle: To the best of his knowledge it is from the early to mid 90s.
He does not recall the year he bought it used for $300.00. It was still in the original Norinco stock.
It was (and still is) a real low mileage rifle. He ran a few mags through it and it worked perfectly.

He thinks, then he bought and installed an original USGI wooden stock, then stuck it in his closet, only taking it out every once in a while
for oiling and such. It has not been shot since back then in the 90s.

He could not find any mags for me so I bought a bunch from a local guy and had them checked out by
a local militaria type gun shop. They all are USGI and in good working order.

Then I went to have some fun at the range . . . the mags would not lock in at the rear of the mag well!

I called my pal and asked about this. Was the original stock on the rifle when he fired it, or did he fire it after he put the
USGI stock on? He could not remember.

I'm thinking there is a problem with the rifle not fitting the stock or something . . .

What do you guys think about my first and only M14 with the mag problem?

Well, I have lots of more questions coming in later posts.

Thanks for all your time and help!
 
Are you trying to push the mags straight in? You have to insert them with the bottom tilted forward, then rotate back to lock. There is a small square hole in the front of the mag. If you look into the magwell of the rifle, you will see that the rear of the op-rod spring guide protrudes into the magwell. That part catches the small square hole, locking the front in place before you rotate the mag back to lock the rear.

Hope that helps you.

Jim
 
Workin Man said:
Are you trying to push the mags straight in? You have to insert them with the bottom tilted forward, then rotate back to lock. There is a small square hole in the front of the mag. If you look into the magwell of the rifle, you will see that the rear of the op-rod spring guide protrudes into the magwell. That part catches the small square hole, locking the front in place before you rotate the mag back to lock the rear.

Hope that helps you.

Jim
Click to expand...

Sorry, forgot to put that in my post. Yes, we all tried that (there were other guys there when attempted test firing). Thanks!
 
Workin Man said:
Are you trying to push the mags straight in? You have to insert them with the bottom tilted forward, then rotate back to lock. There is a small square hole in the front of the mag. If you look into the magwell of the rifle, you will see that the rear of the op-rod spring guide protrudes into the magwell. That part catches the small square hole, locking the front in place before you rotate the mag back to lock the rear.

Hope that helps you.

Jim
Click to expand...

Ocam’srazor, most likely this. Check youtube videos on m14 operation and mag change. Let us know
 
Odd Shot said:
It may be unrelated, but does your rifle pass the function test?
Click to expand...

Well, in as far as possible without magazine inserted.
I can insert mag and hit the bottom rear with the bottom of my fist but it jams up against the bolt lock.
I have to pry the bolt release up with a screwdriver to release the mag.
 
Well, apparently it worked in the factory stock, and now it doesn't work in the USGI stock. I suppose the original stock is long gone?
 
my 1st question:

is the USGI stock properly modified to fit the norinco action? We need pictures of the top and inside of your stock. Use IMGUR picture hosting and past the BBM code.
This could simply be an issue of the connector pin walking out and causing the oprod spring guide rod to sit too far into the receiver, putting too much tension and creating the wrong geometry for the magazine to interface properly.

Could also be the stock is to proud in the bearing surfaces and needs to be altered. A function test will verify this.

Does the OP know how to do an M14 function test?
every rifle should have this test performed prior to every single outing with live ammunition.... every single time.
 
I just talked to my long time pal who purchased this rifle about the mag issue.

Please give him some slack . . . he is 76 years old.

He just told me, in the last hour via our phone call, that when he purchased the rifle it was in a USGI fiberglass stock, not an original Norinco stock. He was mistaken about the rifle being in the original Norinco stock. It was in a USGI fiberglass stock which he did not like so that is when he bought the USGI wood stock which is on it now.

He still has the original USGI fiberglass stock and I am welcome to come pick it up and try it out. I can have which ever stock I want.

He was mistaken that it was a Norinco stock on the rifle. It was not! It was a USGI fiberglass stock on the rifle.

He also found some CMI magazines which he is sure he used to test fire the rifle originally.

Maybe this mystery is solved?

He lives about 60 miles from me so it may be this Wednesday or Thursday before I can get down there, pick up his CMI mags and fiberglass stock, get home, re-assemble the rifle and then test run my new toy again.

Good news?

Now what is this "function test" and how do I do this?

Please let me know!

Thanks everyone for all your time and help!
 
RealReglarGuy said:
Now what is this "function test" and how do I do this?

Please let me know!

Thanks everyone for all your time and help!
Click to expand...

Function test is a check of all the fire settings (which is easy for a semi-auto). Clear the weapon and cycle the action. Apply the safety on and squeeze the trigger, nothing should happen. Cycle the action and set the safety off for semi-auto fire. Squeeze the trigger and the hammer should fall. Keep the trigger squeezed and cycle the action. Release the trigger and you should feel the sear engage. Squeeze the trigger and the hammer should fall.

Google it and you can probably find the illustrations.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom