new joiner has a few questions

[serbinator]

newbie here i just wanna ask a few questions...

1. lets say someone breaks into your home armed , and you have your Restricted license and/or non restricted, what would happen to you legally if you were to shoot the intruder in self defense?? ( i was told that to get away with self defense the intruder has to shoot at you first??? )

2. what are the rules for gun storage/ ammo storage, can i keep the gun in my night stand?? or would it have to be in a ultra secure room with the gun dismantled into a million pieces in seperate safes...??

3. what are the rules for high powered rifles such as the Accuracy International Inc. AW50 at wolverinesupplies.com ???

4. how long does it take to get your license and a firearm??

 

[Doc M]

2. what are the rules for gun storage/ ammo storage, can i keep the gun in my night stand?? or would it have to be in a ultra secure room with the gun dismantled into a million pieces in seperate safes...??

3. what are the rules for high powered rifles such as the Accuracy International Inc. AW50 at wolverinesupplies.com ???

These questions are answered during the CFC safety course and via a search of the CFC website, respectively.

-M

 

[beergut]

yep the cfc will handle all your questons.

 

[serbinator]

gotcha thanks!!!

ps what about #1?? :S

 

[Skullboy]

newbie here i just wanna ask a few questions...

1. lets say someone breaks into your home armed , and you have your Restricted license and/or non restricted, what would happen to you legally if you were to shoot the intruder in self defense?? ( i was told that to get away with self defense the intruder has to shoot at you first??? )

2. what are the rules for gun storage/ ammo storage, can i keep the gun in my night stand?? or would it have to be in a ultra secure room with the gun dismantled into a million pieces in seperate safes...??

3. what are the rules for high powered rifles such as the Accuracy International Inc. AW50 at wolverinesupplies.com ???

4. how long does it take to get your license and a firearm??

Question #1 - Basically you can only get away with using deadly force if your life, or the life of another person is threatened. In a nut shell you would have to be facing imminent death in order to use deadly force against an attacker.................very, very rarely will you walk away scot free..................

If you do shoot an intruder, be prepared to be arrested, held in jail, have all your firearms seized, and be raked over the coals and likely charged manslaughter (or Worse)..........

The laws in Canada tend to protect and give more rights to criminals then the innocent civilians...............

Like the others have posted, the rest of your questions are answer on the CFC website and in the PAL/RPAL courses.................

http://www.cfc-cafc.gc.ca/default_e.asp

BTW, one of the worst things you can do as a Newbie is come on and ask about shooting intruders..............it doesn't look good.............



SKBY.

 

[serbinator]

its because i live in a building thats had 6 breakins over the past year... and welfare housing riddled with (you know who) who do nothing but blast loud rap music and fight in the streets all the time....

i was told by the law teacher in school, that if the entire ordeal is recorded on audio/video and the intruder shoots at you first, you are then allowed illegally to shoot them.. but im not 100% sure if thats true ?? :S

 

[joe-nwt]

its because i live in a building thats had 6 breakins over the past year... and welfare housing riddled with (you know who) who do nothing but blast loud rap music and fight in the streets all the time....

i was told by the law teacher in school, that if the entire ordeal is recorded on audio/video and the intruder shoots at you first, you are then allowed illegally to shoot them.. but im not 100% sure if thats true ?? :S

Grievous bodily harm. Ask your teacher what that means.

 

[Skullboy]

its because i live in a building thats had 6 breakins over the past year... and welfare housing riddled with (you know who) who do nothing but blast loud rap music and fight in the streets all the time....

i was told by the law teacher in school, that if the entire ordeal is recorded on audio/video and the intruder shoots at you first, you are then allowed illegally to shoot them.. but im not 100% sure if thats true ?? :S

I think it's time you looked for a better place to live................

Seriously, owning firearms for "protection" is frowned upon by the Government/Police Agencies in Canada..............you will find yourself in more trouble then it's worth.............

Moving to a better area/building is the easiest answer.................

SKBY.

 

[serbinator]

theres always serbia

but then again, only decent weapons that are in my family is a TT, few ak47s, a MG42 from WW2 that my grandpa managed to "acquire" a ppsh,and a few SKS rifles, what about gun ranges?? any in Toronto or close by??

 

[MauserMike]

Its better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

There was an excellent article on self defense and suggested modifications to your home in the most recent CSSA magazine. Basically, if you have several layers of defense, it gives you "ammunition" to fight in court.

The idea being if a home invader gets through your front door that he has to pass through more "layers" to get to your last stand area, normally your bedroom. Dogs, alarms, solid door with lock on your bedroom. You give your intruder every chance not to smash down that bedroom door and to buy time for 911. Also, they suggested a cell phone in the bedroom in case the line is cut.

That said, moving to a safer neighbourhood is a good start too!

If you check the "legalese" section here, you can download PDF versions of the safety course manuals, both restricted and non-restricted. No point not to get both IMO.

 

[shazam*]

dude.
welcome aboard.
slow down with the posts, and spend a couple of days just reading posts.
read all the FAQ's and stickies.
Most of the info is already there, and people get tired of answering the same questions.
The law is often vague, and is interpreted by judges.
If you want to know about self defence, try doing a google search for the Canada Criminal Code... it is all in there.

Again, welcome aboard, I don't want to sound too negative, but a little reading makes it so much easier...

 

[serbinator]

well i always had a soft spot for the M1 garand best rifle i ever seen!! say you have a pdf of that CSSA article??

edit: and yea im new to this stuff

 

[serbinator]

so i read the criminal code section 34-37

34. (1) Every one who is unlawfully assaulted without having provoked the assault is justified in repelling force by force if the force he uses is not intended to cause death or grievous bodily harm and is no more than is necessary to enable him to defend himself.

(2) Every one who is unlawfully assaulted and who causes death or grievous bodily harm in repelling the assault is justified if
(a) he causes it under reasonable apprehension of death or grievous bodily harm from the violence with which the assault was originally made or with which the assailant pursues his purposes; and
(b) he believes, on reasonable grounds, that he cannot otherwise preserve himself from death or grievous bodily harm.

35. Every one who has without justification assaulted another but did not commence the assault with intent to cause death or grievous bodily harm, or has without justification provoked an assault on himself by another, may justify the use of force subsequent to the assault if
(a) he uses the force
(i) under reasonable apprehension of death or grievous bodily harm from the violence of the person whom he has assaulted or provoked, and
(ii) in the belief, on reasonable grounds, that it is necessary in order to preserve himself from death or grievous bodily harm;
( b) he did not, at any time before the necessity of preserving himself from death or grievous bodily harm arose, endeavour to cause death or grievous bodily harm; and
(c) he declined further conflict and quitted or retreated from it as far as it was feasible to do so before the necessity of preserving himself from death or grievous bodily harm arose.

36. Provocation includes, for the purposes of sections 34 and 35, provocation by blows, words or gestures.

37. (1) Every one is justified in using force to defend himself or any one under his protection from assault, if he uses no more force than is necessary to prevent the assault or the repetition of it.
(2) Nothing in this section shall be deemed to justify the wilful infliction of any hurt or mischief that is excessive, having regard to the nature of the assault that the force used was intended to prevent.

wow the laws in Canada are FUBAR

i cant the day they enact the castle doctrine here in Canada

 

[Stevo]

Legal questions go in "Legalese". Closed.