New lightweight mountain rifle, with a heavy side of Grizz. Debate starter.

Ron Smith, 403-631-2405, is certainly one of the best....and the busiest.

I spoke with Bob Jury, 403-302-3005, a couple of months ago and again today, about reboring an 8X57 to 9.3X62. He does cut rifling in both 284 and 358 barrels.

Ted
 
Why not? said:
Kevan,

A good friend of mine has a 375 AI barreled up by Bevan King, and gets over 2600 fps with 270 spitzers in a 24" barrel. Have no idea what pressure is, but case life is excellent. I wonder is he used Bevan's reamer. I know they were well-acquainted as I met Charlie through Bevan.

Ted
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I thought that maybe he used Bevan's reamer too, but apparently he had his own version made up as his case dimensions are a bit different, this according to a gentleman from C-H die Company I spoke with.
They have his dies catalogued as 375-06 Ackley Imp. CP., that being his version.
I'm afraid the rifle is going make my 9.3X62 redundant among others.
First fireform load went 0.60 " for three rounds.
 
Why not? said:
Ron Smith, 403-631-2405, is certainly one of the best....and the busiest.

I spoke with Bob Jury, 403-302-3005, a couple of months ago and again today, about reboring an 8X57 to 9.3X62. He does cut rifling in both 284 and 358 barrels.

Ted
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Awesome... thanks, Ted.
 
Kevan said:
I thought that maybe he used Bevan's reamer too, but apparently he had his own version made up as his case dimensions are a bit different, this according to a gentleman from C-H die Company I spoke with.
They have his dies catalogued as 375-06 Ackley Imp. CP., that being his version.
I'm afraid the rifle is going make my 9.3X62 redundant among others.
First fireform load went 0.60 " for three rounds.
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As much as I am a 9.3 fan, finishing your brother's rifle and using it is as good as reason as exists to shelve your 9.3.
 
tazzman said:
My thoughts, .338 Federal.
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You would be able to seat the .338 Fed bullets out in that action... but you cannot escape two factors; he wants to stick with .375 bullets of which he has plenty AND the cool factor rests firmly in the 9.5X57 camp.
 
Why not? said:
Ron Smith, 403-631-2405, is certainly one of the best....and the busiest.

I spoke with Bob Jury, 403-302-3005, a couple of months ago and again today, about reboring an 8X57 to 9.3X62. He does cut rifling in both 284 and 358 barrels.

Ted
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Public follow up;

Ron is not taking new work until 2016 and Bob is not certain of the outcome of a rebore as he has only done one OEM barrel rebore.... and these Ruger MKII's have hammer forged barrels... he does mostly new aftermarket barrel bores/chambers/contouring and the smithing to install the barrel. Should the barrel get messed up in the reboring process, the new replacement barrel would cost more than the rifle is worth... I have two other calls out to see if I can find someone to take on the job in the near future.
 
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hoytcanon said:
Public follow up;

Ron is not taking new work until 2016 and Bob is not certain of the outcome of a rebore as he has only done one OEM barrel rebore.... he does mostly new aftermarket bores and chambers and the smithing to install the barrel. I have two other calls out to see if I can find someone to take on the job in the near future.
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It seems to me that there is a greater degree of difficulty following an existing long hole than there would be drilling a fresh hole in a barrel blank, and that added degree of difficulty must be reflected in the price. I'm not a machinist, and I might be wrong about this, but the only time I'd consider reboring over rebarreling is if I was intent upon keeping the factory barrel contour such as with a pre-64 M-70, a ZG-47, or some other, that had characteristics other than a straight or tapered tube, that were important to keep.
 
c-fbmi said:
Reboring is easy, it's just that once it's rebored it MUST be cut rifled, and there just aren't many doing that.
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Bob does cut rifling... I heard back from the two feelers... they are a no go... think I will let Bob try his hand at it... could be a costly mistake.
 
Boomer said:
It seems to me that there is a greater degree of difficulty following an existing long hole than there would be drilling a fresh hole in a barrel blank, and that added degree of difficulty must be reflected in the price. I'm not a machinist, and I might be wrong about this, but the only time I'd consider reboring over rebarreling is if I was intent upon keeping the factory barrel contour such as with a pre-64 M-70, a ZG-47, or some other, that had characteristics other than a straight or tapered tube, that were important to keep.
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I do want to keep the factory contour and express sight set-up... it is an M77 MKII RSI... the express sights and stock fitting ads an element of difficulty to the overall job (and cost)... I begrudge no man making a living... but there is a tipping point between wanting what you want and eventually not being willing to pay for what you want.
 
Boomer said:
The .375 Chatfield -Taylor is built on the .338 Winchester case, the Scovile is just a .375 bullet seated in the 9.3X62 case, or in a .30/06 case reformed to move the shoulder forward for a significant increase in powder capacity. The .375 provides for an increase of a mere .009" of bullet diameter, but some barrel makers, like Ron Smith, make a .375 barrel but not a .366; therefore I chose the Scovile for my rifle.
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Thought I thanked you for this but haven't, so thanks!

I'm thinking the lightweight option for me may be a .30-06 Featherweight in a McMillan Edge stock with 200 or 220 grain bullets.

SuperCub said:
No, what he needs a is 7600 Carbine in 30/06 loaded with 220s topped with a Lyman FP receiver sight.

Wait a minute! ...... That's a good suggestion! ;)
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I bought a Weathermaster thinking this might be a good option over a 12 gauge. Too heavy for mountain slogging maybe. It also needs a lower comb.

Ardent: Good luck with the build. it sounds ideal for your needs.
 
Fun read,

My thought is find the right bullet. If your velocities are lower use a bullet designed for lower velocities, like something made for 375 win. 260Accubonds should be good for expansion and keeping your velocity up. I had no luck with Accubonds in my 350 but 225 partitions are da bomb. So far I think stick with your idea especially since it's improved. Also with anshort barrel go bigger bore.

From left field...don't overlook 375 cal hardcast bullets for straightline penetration(these comments come up a lot on reloadersnest) but there's merit to the principle

Sorry typing this while waiting to drive off the ferry... I'll sleep on it and hopefully have something intelligent to add in the morning
 
OK I slept on it 2 nights.....I also checked the Satterlee website, That's Gun #### for sure!

I looked around for loads and it looks like 2300fps at the muzzle with 260gr partition or Accubonds. That puts you at 250yds for 1800 fps reliable expansion threshold. 2400fps gets you to 300 yds and 2500fps all the way to 350. Above average velocity should only be a bonus. Choosing a cartridge where performance/velocity must be above normal to fit your intended purpose falls into the mistake category. I had this problem with my 350 I chose it on anecdotal evidence of performance above and beyond normal published values. It all worked out in the end but that's been 1 part luck and 2 parts $$$$$ spent on 3 different powders and a fortune in bullets.

I wish you the best of luck, I would even consider your cartridge of choice for a heavy hitting pump 760 like the other thread but with a 200 yd intended purpose.

Hunting the coast mountains by Bella Coola for moose last fall I stepped into a grizzly track much bigger than my boot on every side several k's from the truck with one of.my kids. The 350mag suddenly felt kind of Small
 
I was faced with a similar question; wanted a gun that would serve double purpose as a carry rifle/"guide gun" and a 250 yard iron sighted moose thumper. Short and tough enough to throw into a boat in the broughton archipelago and light enough to carry up the northern Rockies or coastal ranges. Also possessing the elusive "stopping power" and " ability to kill anything in North America".

Did not like the price tag or weight of the ruger offerings, they also had options I had no real taste for like the muzzle break.

I saw a t3 in .338 win mag for 700 bucks, sold some firearms and bought it. Currently awaiting the finances to mount a custom skinner t3 winged sight set up on it and bob the barrel back to 21.5 inches (for me an expensive indulgence, but I what can I say, I like short rifles). I will also be dropping it into a maple boyds stock to keep things classy.

If money was no option it would be .375-338, or a ruger guide gun in 375 with upgraded sights, it may well be some day when work is steadier.
 
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