New M305 Owner Questions

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Hey everybody!
On Tuesday I finally received my PAL in the mail and sure enough already had my mind made up and went out and purchased a Norinco M305. It is a 'Short Rifle Deluxe' version which came equipped with a nice walnut Boyd's stock. Anyways this is my first rifle and I was wondering if anyone with some experience can point me in the right direction. I realize I must clean the rifle thoroughly before use but I am curious what exactly should be cleaned, and what tools I may need to accomplish this task. Also will this require a complete disassembly of the rifle? Anyways I appreciate any help here as I look forward to shooting my new rifle!
-Josh
 
There are some great stickies at the top of the MBR section about this, but the tools you need for servicing an M305 are:
Chlorine free areosol break cleaner
Gas block wrench (look for sadlak)
Brass punches
Cleaning rod and patches
High temperature grease (there's a demo video around somewhere)
A soft face mallet and wooden block
And a flat head screwdriver

There may be a couple other odd and ends but that list of tools has goten me by for the past few months with no complaints.
 
Hi. Sounds like it's used vs BNIB. S'ok. Takes a lot of abuse to damage a modern firearm. Also means it's unlikely to be covered in preservative grease. That's good too.
No complete disassembly is really needed, but if you're like most of us, you find that fun. However, it's a field strip only. You don't need to take everything off. Regular cleaning, including the gas system(not terribly complicated on an M305.) is all you need do.
 
Hey guys thanks for taking the time to respond. Definitely found lots of great info and demos in the stickies was just unsure of what I should do with the new rifle but the replies have cleared that up! I know it sounds strange with this particular rifle as to whether it's used vs. brand new in box but you can see them on the Ellwood Epps website the guy who sold it to me said whatever company imports the rifle had a batch put on the Boyd's stock definitely looks new to me (could be wrong I suppose but it was advertised as new)! Beautiful rifle though and love the stock! Anyways thanks for your help everybody!!!
-Josh
 
X2 on the stickies and the videos listed above and some others on the tube. Josh it would help a lot if you have someone close to you who has an M-14 and has gone through the learning curve already to shoot the crap with hand compare rifles.

Most of us have learned a lot form the local gurus on this board, so we can help with the basic strip and DIY accuracy stuff that may intimidate a new shooter/rifle owner. It really helps when you know what to pry on and what to hit hard etc so as not to break or write of good parts lol. Of course most good videos explain this but having someone show you hands on never hurts, because occasionally with any rifle, and Norincos in particular something is overly tight or just not right and someone who has handles many will recognize this right off and help you to sort it out.
Getting to one of Tactical Teachers M-14 clinics would be a great idea as well I see your in Ont, but otherwise follow the video and become familiar with your rifle.

Also try not to worry too much on dodads and big glass and such right away. Get some cheap bulk ammo and heat her up over iron sights the way it was designed to be fired. A thousand rounds or so should break you and the rifle in lol. This initial period will bring a bond between you and your rifle, and you may keep it that way as I did. Or you may want to do the DIY upgrades when you know exactly now what you are chasing with the M-14.:canadaFlag:
 
If your rifle doubles or triples, or fails the hammer following test because of a possible stacking error, look to the hammer spring shroud. Mine was bad from the get go out of the box. I think this may be a problem on all newer Norinco M305es.
Be advised that your rifle may pass the hammer spring following test and still double with a bad hammer spring shroud.
When I encountered these problems I sent my rifle to Tactical Ordnance and Casey Bouward fixed my rifle and told me about the above problem. I did not have a out of battery discharge but it just might have been a problem. Read everything U can about the M305 on the net. There is a lot of good info out there, unfortunately there is also a bunch of hooey info mixed in. Yur gonna have to figure out what is right and wrong on yur own. If it makes sense go by it.
Dont expect your M305 to be a tac driver. It is a battle rifle, the US military's ordnance standards require the rifle to shoot 8 inches at 100 meters. If yours does better than this with no mods consider yourself to have purchased a better than average rack grade rifle.
 
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