New ORA Guest Policy - Be aware

Hopefully it gets changed. It's really limiting to organization like the DCRA and ORA who offer a variety of disciplines that are not widely known/promoted, to require somebody to spend hundreds of dollars to join to find out what, if anything suits their interest and budget.

Growth in the shooting sports is required for them to survive. This limits growth significantly IMO.
 
ORA membership is $147; senior, $117, under-25 is $62.
Full ORA/DCRA membership is $227, $197 and $107, respectively.
 
Bolivar said:
Hopefully it gets changed. It's really limiting to organization like the DCRA and ORA who offer a variety of disciplines that are not widely known/promoted, to require somebody to spend hundreds of dollars to join to find out what, if anything suits their interest and budget.

Growth in the shooting sports is required for them to survive. This limits growth significantly IMO.
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Exactly... Want to try 2 disciplines? Break out the plastic.

I tried a PRS match there this spring. I'm not sure it is my cup of tea, but now it basically means I can't try something else unless I want to commit to more money. It's disappointing, but there is nothing I can do about it :(
 
the Membership fee is too expensive for me. I went to the SR Clinic this spring and had a blast. But I don't know if competition is for me. Same with the CQB stuff. I would like to take the clinic and see if I like it, but I won't be dropping a membership fee to find out.
 
I hope the ORA is reading this and reporting back . This is your people and they are voting with their wallets. I understand this is a DCRA ruling but is there no appeal or work around? Why cap it at once and then buy membership? If it is related to insurance being a full paying member will not stop someone being stupid or from accidents/ negligence occurring. We would still be up the creek whether they paid the yearly membership or not. Stuff happens. That is why all the directors of the programs have safety protocols in place and the RSO and AROs run their disciplines with safety being first priority.
 
tiriaq said:
ORA membership is $147; senior, $117, under-25 is $62.
Full ORA/DCRA membership is $227, $197 and $107, respectively.
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This is what I see.

CATEGORY A

NOTE: The limited membership category is no longer available due to the decision of the DCRA to remove the limited membership category from their offering.

Associate: Full ORA – Associate DCRA Membership (includes The Canadian Marksman) $175 for 2016/17only (includes $30 reduction due to reduced shooting schedule; $205 normally)
Full: Full ORA – Full DCRA Membership (includes The Canadian Marksman, eligibility to attend the National Championships, be a member of Canadian Teams, full DCRA membership and voting privileges): $255 for 2016/17 only (includes $30 reduction due to reduced shooting schedule; $285 normally)
 
PitBull1973 said:
This is what I see.

CATEGORY A

NOTE: The limited membership category is no longer available due to the decision of the DCRA to remove the limited membership category from their offering.

Associate: Full ORA – Associate DCRA Membership (includes The Canadian Marksman) $175 for 2016/17only (includes $30 reduction due to reduced shooting schedule; $205 normally)
Full: Full ORA – Full DCRA Membership (includes The Canadian Marksman, eligibility to attend the National Championships, be a member of Canadian Teams, full DCRA membership and voting privileges): $255 for 2016/17 only (includes $30 reduction due to reduced shooting schedule; $285 normally)
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The fees I quoted were for probationary membership for 2016/2017 - the fees a new member would pay.
 
So wasn't there a thread a little while ago about the disappointing season last year with hardly any events, and people wanting money back? And now you are forcing people to become a member.... For what?

I was thinking of signing up until I read about last season, so this year I wanted to try an event as a guest and see if the ORA is what I want to do and buy a membership. Now I can't even do that?


Seems a little disappointing to myself looking to get into the sport.

There are too many unknowns here to make me want to fork out that money.
 
dastt

I agree and understand. If had not been able to come to a few events as a guest to check things out I would not have gotten involved in the ORA either. Hopefully this org and the governing DCRA will find a way to change things so that guests can be accomodated. The best advertisement for the shooting sports is participaton.
 
I'm an ORA member.
I shoot multiple disciplines at two of the ranges so the membership fee is good value to me and a relatively small amount compared to the costs of equipment, match fees, travel, and ammunition.
But not everyone is in the same boat as me.

Hopefully the ORA / DCRA is actively pursuing other insurance policies or carriers that can provide suitable coverage that will allow guests to participate in all matches and events at reasonable cost.

Policies like these will only serve to stifle growth in the membership and the sport and the Association(s) will slowly wither and die.
 
A lot of shooters have insurance through CSSA, CFI, NFA, whatever. Insurance independent of any particular club.
If insurance is the issue, it would be worth finding out why coverage accepted just about everywhere else isn't satisfactory. Perhaps it is because ORA/DCRA use only DND ranges.

There are shooters who would prefer to shoot on a pay-as-you-go basis, without making a commitment to a particular organization. Where I shoot, we welcome such shooters - but their entry fees are twice what a member pays.

I, too, am a full ORA/DCRA member. Along with other clubs. I believe in supporting organizations.
 
tiriaq said:
Perhaps it is because ORA/DCRA use only DND ranges.
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^ this is the case 100%. I recently had to go through some challenges at my home club regarding our club's insurance and quizzed the CSSA's underwriter on DND ranges. The CCSA and NFA policies do not cover DND ranges. I've never spoken to anyone from OFAH, CFI, or CCFR to ask them.

DINK

DINK
 
dink27 said:
^ this is the case 100%. I recently had to go through some challenges at my home club regarding our club's insurance and quizzed the CSSA's underwriter on DND ranges. The CCSA and NFA policies do not cover DND ranges. I've never spoken to anyone from OFAH, CFI, or CCFR to ask them.

DINK

DINK
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Just wondering, in your conversation did you explicitly mention that it was for civilian recreational use under the auspices of a gun club (not coverage for DND training or other sort of workplace coverage)? A lot of people don't really understand and the default answer might just be "no" if they are unsure and don't want to admit it.
 
dastt said:
So wasn't there a thread a little while ago about the disappointing season last year with hardly any events, and people wanting money back? And now you are forcing people to become a member.... For what?

I was thinking of signing up until I read about last season, so this year I wanted to try an event as a guest and see if the ORA is what I want to do and buy a membership. Now I can't even do that?


Seems a little disappointing to myself looking to get into the sport.

There are too many unknowns here to make me want to fork out that money.
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I agree completely. I did want to try an event, but after last years fiasco I think ill take my shooting dollars elsewhere.
 
I've been on the fence about becoming a member of the ORA for the last few years, as I usually make it out to a Vintage shoot once a year. This year I was hoping to ramp it up a bit. I tried the SR Clinic, I'm planning on a CQB match and if I can make one (and there is one) a Precision match. I will most likely get a membership and carry on with that plan. There is nowhere else I know of that you can shoot movers and snaps. The other bonus of the DND ranges (some of them) is the ability to shoot from beyond 300 yds. I shot my AR out to 500yds at the SR clinic, first time past 300yds for me. I am looking forward to getting out to 1000yds with my precision rifle in the next year hopefully. The only place these things are going to happen is at Borden. I'm not a fan of this policy, but I probably should have became a member this year before this came down. If we don't support the organizations that allow these events to happen, years down the road we will be moaning about how there aren't SR shoots, or CQB, or Precision or anything. Another item to put things in perspective, I spent more $ on ammo for the SR clinic than the membership is going to cost.
 
dink27 said:
^ this is the case 100%. I recently had to go through some challenges at my home club regarding our club's insurance and quizzed the CSSA's underwriter on DND ranges. The CCSA and NFA policies do not cover DND ranges. I've never spoken to anyone from OFAH, CFI, or CCFR to ask them.

DINK

DINK
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NFA does, or did 2 years ago, I dealt with it first hand as part of the exce of my club. All we had to do was have guest pay $5 to get added to our policy and good to go.

Shawn
 
tiriaq said:
And where would you take your shooting dollars that will give you the shooting options that ORA does?
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Well, since I am only interested in Service Conditions, I'm not interested in all of the options the ORA offers. That said, I can get 2 weekends of CQB as well as a couple PR matches in Petawawa. A bit of a drive but they are 2 day events and a blast so worth the travel time. As much as I will miss the option of CQB at Borden, there are enough club run events in this part of the province that most shooters will find other avenues and disciplines to shoot. In the end, I think this move will hurt the ORA/DCRA most of all. It's a shame too.
 
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