As the title describes, I don't know what to get. I've heard so much about Glock, m&p some say start with SD9 . Some say polymer. Some say full steel for less recoil. Now I hear CZ75 shadow sp1 is the only way to go, but it feels horrible in my hand. I'd like to stay around 500 to 750$ but if needed I can wait and save for more. I like the baby desert eagle and the steyr LA1. Or should I just get a norinco np22 9mm and then work my way up. I'm so confused. Help!
New pistol shooter. future IDPA. What pistol to get?
- Thread starter skylinejg
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It's unusual that the CZ is a poor fit but it and Glock 17 etc have been stalwarts in IDPA for some time.
DO you have larger hands ?
DO you have larger hands ?
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And the CZ did not feel good ?? maybe try a CZ Canadian with thinner grip panels.. and if you like it add the grips to a standard CZ..
Runningfool
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- SW Ontario
With a budget of $500-700 I'd grab a M&P range kit....comes with a blade tech holster, mag pouches, and 4 mags so you will be set for idpa without spending any extra cash. Plus the M&P comes with 3 back straps so you can adjust the grip size to fit your hands. Sure, the stock trigger is chit but you can upgrade that easily down the road.
This gets you into the game with minimal cost and you can eventually figure out if you're a polymer guy or a steel frame guy, striker-fired or hammer, etc. Worst case scenario, you hate the M&P and sell it on the EE which will be easy because there is always someone just starting and looking to get into the game like you are.
I wouldn't bother going with the Norinco NP22...by the time you add a holster, mag holders, and additional mags it won't be as cheap as you think.
This gets you into the game with minimal cost and you can eventually figure out if you're a polymer guy or a steel frame guy, striker-fired or hammer, etc. Worst case scenario, you hate the M&P and sell it on the EE which will be easy because there is always someone just starting and looking to get into the game like you are.
I wouldn't bother going with the Norinco NP22...by the time you add a holster, mag holders, and additional mags it won't be as cheap as you think.
Checkout information listed on the IDPA Canada website regarding the type of equipment used in IDPA. There is an excellent article titled "Essential Guns and Gear for IDPA Beginners" listed under Equipment Discussions.
Over the past dozen years the most popular two pistols shot in IDPA are the Glocks and M&P's. Both of these designs have models that are quite affordable and in the case of the M&P are sold as kits where you get the Gun, Holster and mag holders required to shoot the sport. If you decide to got that route you will get all the equipment you will need to shoot the sport and have fun. The advantage to you of course is you will have a gun that you can ride to the top of the sport. Check out the Equipment Exchange on this forum where good buys are often found. As you improve there are some upgrades available for the gun that you may find allows you to improve your results. Initially though, I would not bother with spending more money past the initial cost of the gun, holster and mag holders with the caveat that having four mags available speeds up the loading process when you come to the line as the fourth mag can be used as your "Barney" or top up mag.
Gun purchases tend to be very much a personal matter. What serves one shooter may not another. There is no one gun ideal for the sport and results are seldom tied to amount spent on the gun in this sport for most shooters.
I will end this with the following comment.
!. Almost all modern handguns are dead nuts reliable. Glocks, M&P's, Tanfoglio, CZ's, Spriongfield. and SiGS to name the more common SSP guns.
2. Almost all modern handguns are capable of out shooting 95% of the shooters who own them in stock format.
3. If you don't presently own a pistol then buy what you can afford and a gun you feel comfortable with and will enjoy shooting. Unless you intend to shoot CDP or Revolver buy the gun in 9MM. The cartridge is the least expensive cartridge to buy factory and is easy to reload. Unless you reload the 40 cal offers no advantage in IDPA over the 9MM in any of the pistol divisions.
4. Polymer guns do dominate the sport. Glocks, M&P's and to a lessor extent the Springfield polymers are all very popular. All are relatively inexpensive.
5. Enjoy the sport and have fun. I know all the Club Contacts across Canada and they I am sure will welcome you to the sport.
I do hope you find some of the above of interest.
Take Care
Bob
Over the past dozen years the most popular two pistols shot in IDPA are the Glocks and M&P's. Both of these designs have models that are quite affordable and in the case of the M&P are sold as kits where you get the Gun, Holster and mag holders required to shoot the sport. If you decide to got that route you will get all the equipment you will need to shoot the sport and have fun. The advantage to you of course is you will have a gun that you can ride to the top of the sport. Check out the Equipment Exchange on this forum where good buys are often found. As you improve there are some upgrades available for the gun that you may find allows you to improve your results. Initially though, I would not bother with spending more money past the initial cost of the gun, holster and mag holders with the caveat that having four mags available speeds up the loading process when you come to the line as the fourth mag can be used as your "Barney" or top up mag.
Gun purchases tend to be very much a personal matter. What serves one shooter may not another. There is no one gun ideal for the sport and results are seldom tied to amount spent on the gun in this sport for most shooters.
I will end this with the following comment.
!. Almost all modern handguns are dead nuts reliable. Glocks, M&P's, Tanfoglio, CZ's, Spriongfield. and SiGS to name the more common SSP guns.
2. Almost all modern handguns are capable of out shooting 95% of the shooters who own them in stock format.
3. If you don't presently own a pistol then buy what you can afford and a gun you feel comfortable with and will enjoy shooting. Unless you intend to shoot CDP or Revolver buy the gun in 9MM. The cartridge is the least expensive cartridge to buy factory and is easy to reload. Unless you reload the 40 cal offers no advantage in IDPA over the 9MM in any of the pistol divisions.
4. Polymer guns do dominate the sport. Glocks, M&P's and to a lessor extent the Springfield polymers are all very popular. All are relatively inexpensive.
5. Enjoy the sport and have fun. I know all the Club Contacts across Canada and they I am sure will welcome you to the sport.
I do hope you find some of the above of interest.
Take Care
Bob
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Phat Eagle
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- Fraser Valley, BC
At our shoots the SSP class is pretty much filled with Glock 17s and M&P. I'm an oddball running a Walther PPQ. I have stubby hands too, and found it fit me best after many years of trying. Another fellow runs a Strike One, but he has a LOT of problems with it. I also suggest looking into the Walther PPX for a cheap starter range kit. To me, the ergos are almost as nice as as the PPQ, and it's less expensive. Like many polymer pistols the Gen 4 Glock and M&P have interchangeable backstraps (as with my PPQ), so you can probably find a good fit there.
For IDPA make sure you get a total of four mags (one in pistol, two in mag pouches, one in your pocket to top up).
All this being said, there is solace in running a Glock or M&P just because there are so many of them out there... A few months back a fellow drove 4 hours to come to our local IDPA shoot. He forgot his holster at home
Fortunately, he was running a Glock (my spare), so I was able to loan him my holster. Wouldn't have worked out so well if he was running an oddball like a Walther or Sig...
Have fun!!
For IDPA make sure you get a total of four mags (one in pistol, two in mag pouches, one in your pocket to top up).
All this being said, there is solace in running a Glock or M&P just because there are so many of them out there... A few months back a fellow drove 4 hours to come to our local IDPA shoot. He forgot his holster at home
Fortunately, he was running a Glock (my spare), so I was able to loan him my holster. Wouldn't have worked out so well if he was running an oddball like a Walther or Sig...Have fun!!
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Lots of good choices out there. Bob's (Canuck44) post pretty much covers it all. There is something to be said for running one of the more popular choices (Glock, M&P, etc) because other guys can typically help out with mags, holsters, etc if you're short on gear when you start out.
I am a huge M&P fan. I owned 3 (at the same time) at one point, down to 2 now, a Range and Carry Kit and a CORE Pro. Great guns, only problems I have had with them have been stupid mistakes in reloading.
The Range Kit is just about the best value out there and its quite possibly the best IDPA Starter kit.
Greg
The Range Kit is just about the best value out there and its quite possibly the best IDPA Starter kit.
Greg
Baxtercharlie
Regular
- Location
- York Region, Ontario
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- Ottawa Valley
I really like my M&P... Do not like the CZ as you have to hold the Hammer, Pull the Trigger and let the Hammer down softly, and hope you don't mess up and end up with a AD ( accidental discharge - time to go home...) I have seen it happen.. Not good...
Hope you like the sport once you get going in it..
Hope you like the sport once you get going in it..
Runningfool
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- SW Ontario
What???
This action is done by IPSC and IDPA shooters every week safely and without incident by using the thumb roll method. The only incidents of an AD occurring when lowering the hammer happens when the shooter uses the pinch method. My good friend, Ron E. will tell you he had performed the action thousands of times during his competitive lifetime safely by using the thumb roll method. There is nothing unsafe about lowering the hammer on a CZ or Tanfoglio if the shooter uses the proper method. I have witnessed two AD's at IPSC matches when the pinch method was employed. Never with the thumb roll method.
If a shooter owns a CZ and uses the pinch method he will eventually experience an AD. Using the thumb roll method eliminates the AD completely.
Take Care
Bob
Baxtercharlie
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- York Region, Ontario
If by trigger job you mean apex parts that is even better
