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Getting back into trap shooting and bought a new Remington 1100 trap special due to it's soft recoil and my health issues.Got a good deal on Winchester Target loads so took them to the range for my debut on the firing line after a 30 year hiatus.Had to dissassemble the firearm twice,with 3 people trying to help me,get an fired shell out of the chamber.WTF!The club I shoot at sells Federal Top Gun loads and I tried a box of those shells.Like night and day!The Remington loved those shells.Loaded,cycled,ejected like it was supposed to...excellent!Other people at the club told me to stay away from those shells (Winchester target) they jam pumps also.Is this an on-going issue with Winchester target shells ?My wife's single shot Berretta trap special had no problems with those shells. FYI.Update...Challenger target work great in my Remington also!
 
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If you're talking about the Winchester "Super Target" shells, they don't use a brass base which can be the cause of endless frustration !!! Those steel bases seem to get stuck (and it's not just the Winchester shot shells) in the chamber even on some O/U shotguns (My 28 Gauge Beretta will only eject quality brass based shells). They may be cheaper, but ..................................
 
The majority of target shells on the market area steel anymore. Winchester AA and Remington STS/Nitro are about it as far as brass go, and they are pricey.

It is possible that Super Targets may be a problem. Some guns do not function well with them. I avoid them like the plague, but I know people that like them.

It may help to take a chamber brush to your 1100.
 
I've shot hundreds of thousands of Super Target loads with no problems what so ever albeit most of my guns are break action but the few semi's I've put them through had no problems. None of those were 1100's by the way. The only pump I've put them through is a Model 12 Trap and it has had no issues with them either.
I suspect that the steel heads are the source of your grief even though the Top Gun shells have them too. It's an easy enough fix, just don't buy Super target.
 
Winchester AA, Remington STS/NITRO 27 and Federal Gold Medal are the only brass base target shells that I know of although many steel bases shells are brass plated to look like brass. If in doubt, a magnet is your friend, it is not affected by brass. These premium target loads are more expensive than most over the counter ammo and this is just one reason of many. Most break open guns will happily digest any commercial ammo and most reloads, autos and pumps not so much.
 
Super targets do not work in my Ljutic and even score and challenger sometimes will not extract.Cheap shells you get what you pay for.
 
My 1100 Magnum with a 2-3/4" barrel has cycled many flats of Winchester Super-Target 1145 fps 2-3/4" dram equivalent loaded with an 1-1/8 oz of #8 without any issues. It is broken in and well lubed in the moving parts.
 
Ashcroft said:
Winchester AA, Remington STS/NITRO 27 and Federal Gold Medal are the only brass base target shells that I know of although many steel bases shells are brass plated to look like brass. If in doubt, a magnet is your friend, it is not affected by brass. These premium target loads are more expensive than most over the counter ammo and this is just one reason of many. Most break open guns will happily digest any commercial ammo and most reloads, autos and pumps not so much.
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My understanding is that since Federal released the Grand line, the only brass base available is on the papers.
 
I had a flat of Winchester Super Target shells that were corroded ever so slightly just behind the rim and would get stuck in the chamber of my 870 pump. They also got stuck in a friends O/U. I believe the corrosion was causing the issue.
I won't buy them anymore.
 
Winchester Super Target are crap in semi-autos. A buddy of mine was using them in a brand spanking new Beretta A400 and was getting repeated fail to eject and fail to feed. We swapped shells and I shot his Super Target in my o/u, he used my Challengers and his gun functioned perfectly.
 
BJP said:
If you're talking about the Winchester "Super Target" shells, they don't use a brass base which can be the cause of endless frustration !!! Those steel bases seem to get stuck (and it's not just the Winchester shot shells) in the chamber even on some O/U shotguns (My 28 Gauge Beretta will only eject quality brass based shells). They may be cheaper, but ..................................
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In this day and age I would suggest that the materials used in those cheaper shells not being made of brass or brass like materials is the problem of 99.9% of these issues that appear rampant.
Shell's stuck in tight chambers that could use a light polish by the new owner taking possession .
I would think that a new 1100 wouldn't have such an issue , but that too appears to be the new norm ?
Use a slightly better quality of ammo or polish it up and git'er done.
Rob
 
When the shell is fired the metal base momentarily expands against the chamber walls, then springs back to original size. Brass is softer, more ductile and springs back more easily and more completely than steel. If you are a reloader you already know that steel based shells are harder to resize. If you couple this with a dirty, corroded or pitted chamber you will have extraction problems on gun designs that have less than optimum extraction power such as many autos and pumps.
 
Ashcroft said:
Winchester AA, Remington STS/NITRO 27 and Federal Gold Medal are the only brass base target shells that I know of although many steel bases shells are brass plated to look like brass. If in doubt, a magnet is your friend, it is not affected by brass. These premium target loads are more expensive than most over the counter ammo and this is just one reason of many. Most break open guns will happily digest any commercial ammo and most reloads, autos and pumps not so much.
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Actually only the STS/Nitro27 still use brass, the AA and Gold Medal Grand are brass washed steel now.
 
My gf's A400 Xplor 20ga does not like them either. Out of a box she will have 60%+ that fail to eject shooting singles trap. She has to manually eject them by pulling the bolt handle rearward but has never had to dismantle the gun to remove a hull. They just don't seem to have enough oomph to eject under their own power. Through my SX3 I might get one to two that fail to fully cycle during doubles on the skeet field out of every 100 targets but I'm not always on top of keeping my gun clean between outings. My gf on the other hand keeps hers spit and polished after each outing. Remington Gun Club and their American Clay & Field shells never fail in her gun but the Kent Elite shells have about a 40% fte issue through her gun whereas my SX3 digests it all almost problematic free. I also find her gun seems to have a tighter chamber. I've dropped shells into the chamber with the barrel removed, my SX3 they just drop right in. Her A400 very few drop right in. I think the Beretta chamber is just slightly smaller though I would need to mic it to be certain.
 
I think Spank is on to something.
There are two issues with steel head shotshells.
Tight tolerance chambers or rough or corroded chambers create problems.
Steel head shells don't shrink back well after firing, unlike brass.
In a minimum chamber, the steel head cartridges don't extract well.
 
LouF said:
Getting back into trap shooting and bought a new Remington 1100 trap special due to it's soft recoil and my health issues.Got a good deal on Winchester Target loads so took them to the range for my debut on the firing line after a 30 year hiatus.Had to dissassemble the firearm twice,with 3 people trying to help me,get an fired shell out of the chamber.
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Carry a piece of 5/8" brass, 3 inches long with slightly rounded ends... stand your shotgun barrel up and drop the brass in... usually kicks the fired shell right out...
 
I had the same problem with my 11/87 and the browning maxus they just wouldn’t extract after about 15 shots, switch over to Remington and like you said night to day difference, works perfect ever time now.
 
guntech said:
Carry a piece of 5/8" brass, 3 inches long with slightly rounded ends... stand your shotgun barrel up and drop the brass in... usually kicks the fired shell right out...
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Had to get a wooden dowel from the range office,put it down the barrel, and hammer that against a bench to get the empty out..twice with the Winchester's.f:P:
 
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