New rifle 3 questions?

JNG

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I'm trying to decide on a new rifle. I was seriously considering a TRG 42 300WinMag but have since rethought this decision after reading an argument in a different thread that for the money I might as well get a custom rifle built.
Most of the time I will be shooting 100-300 yds but want something that will be accurate to 1000yds for the occasional time that I get to a longer range.
I am toying with different ideas for caliber like 7mmWSM, 7mmRemMag and 300WinMag in that order. I just want a rifle that will shoot very well and be durable. I'm only shooting targets, not hunting, so knock down power is not high on the priority list.
3 Questions:
1: If I build a custom rifle and money is no object who would you
recommend?
2: Which company would I get the best "bang" for my buck(if different from 1)
3: Which caliber would you recommend?
P.S. I want to buy Canadian!
 
1: even if money is an object.... Alberta tactical
2: Alberta Tactical
3: For what you are looking at doing. your 3rd choice. 300 win mag.

P.S. he's canadian....Calgary
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Just an opinion......BUT IT'S A GOOD ONE!!:D :D :D :D
 
Thanks for the opinion. That's a beautiful looking rifle!!! I take it that it's a 300Win Mag? I was leaning more towards a 7mmWSM or Rem Mag because of the smaller recoil. Is this recomendation because there are more match grade bullet choices in 30cal?
 
JNG,

I see you are in Southwestern ON. Muzzle breaks are fine at reducing recoil, but they come with a huge piss-off factor, if you are at a range with other close by shooters.

Unless you mainly shoot alone or in wide open spaces, I would pick an unbreaked 7mm (BC up to .7) even a 6.5/284 (BC up .65).

NormB
 
JNG If I were you, I'd give some more thought to a 6mm or 6.5mm. Cartridges like 6mm Dasher, 6mm XC, .260 Rem, 6.5-'06, 6.5-284 all perfrom well out to 1km.
If you later decide to hunt, the 6.5's are very capable of game in the moose/elk size.

If you still favour the 7mm, I believe Rick at ATR has considerable experience with the 7mm RemMag
 
NormB said:
JNG,

Unless you mainly shoot alone or in wide open spaces, I would pick an unbreaked 7mm (BC up to .7) even a 6.5/284 (BC up .65).

NormB
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Norm you can be quite right there, a little respect must be shown when shooting a comped or muzzle braked rifle. That being said this one is not much louder than your average large calibre rifle. Our range has a covered shooting position and I have been beside Browning rifles with the BOSS that bark much Louder than this one.

Just make sure everyone has thier ear protection on (wich should be done no matter what firearm your shooting) and all should be good.

Just an opinion
 
the vais brake if your looking for a brake is much quiter than most muzzle breaks
also I shoot a 7mm rem mag and a friend is shooting a .300 weatherby and I can kill any thing he can in fact Im going to kill a buffalo next week just get bigger bullets 69.8grains retumbo and 175 gr barnes x the 7 is very flat the .284 hornady 162gr amax has a bc of .625 the .300 win amax 178gr has a bc of .495 Im not the most amazinly knowlegeable person but i reallylike my 7mm rem mag
 
My choice would be the 284 with the 175 Sierra’s or 180 Berger’s you can neck up 6.5/284 Lapua or Norma brass back to it original configuration and have a very solid caliber for everything you have suggested. Or buy the Winchester brass . If recoil is an issue you may even want to go to 6mmbr. It a great shooting round with low recoil and uses less powder then most. Using 107 or DTAC 115 bullets will easily reach out to 1000 yards.

If your looking for factory rounds you may want to look into the 6.5x55 Swede or the 280 Rem
 
Trevor60 said:
My choice would be the 284 with the 175 Sierra’s or 180 Berger’s you can neck up 6.5/284 Lapua or Norma brass back to it original configuration and have a very solid caliber for everything you have suggested. Or buy the Winchester brass . If recoil is an issue you may even want to go to 6mmbr. It a great shooting round with low recoil and uses less powder then most. Using 107 or DTAC 115 bullets will easily reach out to 1000 yards.

If your looking for factory rounds you may want to look into the 6.5x55 Swede or the 280 Rem
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I had put some thought into doing a 6.5-284 for varmint and predator hunting. I wanted to try my luck at the 1000yrd gopher. What kind of life do you get out of the barrel? I have heard it can be a barrel burner, 1000rnd life span. is that myth or reality?
 
Since LR is a maybe, then I would suggest a fast twist 223 or 22/250. With 75 to 80gr bullets, they are effective to 1000yds (similar to a 308). For shorter distances, you can use lighter bullets with excellent accuracy. Low recoil, noise and cost.

Then there is the 6BR/PPC's. Enough said...

Larger 6mm cases are fine too. They will be a bit big for shooting mostly short distances and have increase barrel wear.

I love the 6.5 and 7mm's. For LR, there really is nothing close without a lot of recoil, noise, and costs. Big bonus is that components are readily available. Shooting them inside 300yds is OK but what's the point if just punching paper. The bigger the cartridge/bullet weight, the harder they are to shoot well due to recoil and other external/internal ballistics.

I can recommend Dennis Sorenson (Guntech) to do the work. Great turnaround, excellent machining quality and the several guns he has put together shoot very well (look for my upcoming post on my 7 Mystic). He also has a wonderful 7RM reamer.

However, to start, why not just pick up a Savage 12FV in 223. Get the action properly bedded and start burning powder. With handloads, little reason why it can't shoot 1/2 MOA or better. Being able to shoot 1" or better at 300yds is nothing to sneeze at.

This also equals and beats many custom rifles except the BR variety. Once you have gained the skills to outshoot the Savage, you can easily have it rebarreled with a true match barrel and other accessories. The action is more then capable of shooting winning scores at 1000yds in light rifle classes.

As I have written many times before, I prefer a beginner to get lots of trigger time. That costs money. Put the money into better optics and reloading components. The rifle will come later as your skills increase. Plus with the rapid changes in bullet tech, by the time you outgrow the Savage, there might be many new choices for the perfect rig.

If you really want to get practise for LR shooting, get a quality 22LR and shoot it at 200yds. Wind/mirage doping you will learn in a big hurry.

Jerry
 
LRC, depends on the accuracy you want. Yes, it is hard on throats but all of these big case/small cals are. Would expect 1200 to 1500rds of match accuracy. Working on my 6.5 Mystic which should get me close to the 6.5-284 using less powder for longer barrel life.

If my barrel block ever gets built, I will get to do testing with my BR rig.

Give Moosehunter a shout. He has a 1000yd BR rig and has been shooting the 6.5-284 for a bit.

Jerry
 
Mystic player is right. 6.5/284 tends to be hard on barrels. competitive guys start looking for a new barrel around the 1500 round mark some guys depending on how hot the load is see deteration in accuracy as soon a 500 rounds but these guys are running really hot and it is not the norm. These are 30" tubes and the 142 sierra's, leaving somewhere between 2950 and 3000 fps. If your really interested in 6.5/284 check out the web site long range target shooting. They know far more then i do on the 6.5/284. The reason i like the actual 284 is from all accounts it drifts less in the wind and has a longer barrel life. 175 sierra's are leaving at about 2800, 2850 fps and can give you 1000 round more barrel life.
 
JNG. if you want to buy Canadian your choices are limited. Dennis sorenson has a good rep. Prairie gun works , but a good shop in Ontario is Milcun in Burnt River. Keith and Linda are both top shooters and can build you whatever you want.
Pretty well every 1000 yd F class match this year was won with 6.5x.284. Under 1000 shots to a bbl. The new flavour however is to shoot the 7mm 175s out of the std .284 case. better windbucking and longer bbl life. lot of new .284's being built right now. and this year will be the test. However the South African F class team did beat the US team last spring on a windy day with the 7mmx.284 so it has already shown its potential.
I,ve already put my money up and built a 6.5 x 55 Swede. .284 type velocity with longer barrel life. To each his own.
 
If you want to try a good 6.5/284 LRC, just let me know the next time you're heading to the range.
I mounted the 10X IOR Valdada on the kid's last night and changed out the English straight grip for a pistol grip from one of my other rifles.
It still has match accuracy and will for some time!

Pass the 125 alberta Wildcats , please!:D
Cat
 
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