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Stewie333

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Hi guys.

I just picked up a new (for me) rifle today. It's a CIL Model 950T in .308 that I am hoping to try for F-Class this summer.
I'm pretty happy.:D Hope to see some of you guys at the range.

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Cheers

Stewie
 
That looks like it is in nice condition... if that barrel and caliber don't work out it will be a fine basis for a custom barrel.

I sold a used 950T a few years back and haven't come across another since. There used to be a lot of them around...
 
It's my Browning hunting scope! LOL I have to start saving for new glass now. I put it on there so I would be able to go to the range tomorrow. There is no way I can wait until I have a new scope to go shoot this thing.
 
That was at Jason's wasn't it?

Bob Todd worked at CIL in the '60s when all the DCRA shooters were looking for alternatives to No.4s for bullseye shooting. His son posts on this forum. You rifle is directly attributable to a real person, a dad and a pretty good Bisley shooter. CIL was very active in the shooting sports, both making and selling lots of ammo, but partnering with Savage for guns to the Canadian market. Maybe your 950 is not his personal rifle, but part of a product line that he convinced management to import for a particular user segment.

Here is something else I found on a sniper site that might be informative. http://www.snipercountry.com/hottips/RifleCIL.htm
 
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Hi maple_leaf_eh

Yes, I got it at Jason's. Thank you for a bit of the history and the link. Information is quite scarce regarding these rifles. I am hoping this rifle will allow me to be somewhat compeditive this summer (although I doubt it). LOL. I have zero wind doping exprience, or, shooting over 200yds for that matter.

Cheers

Stewie
 
Cil 950 T

Gun looks good.
I owned one for a little while, and it wouldn't shoot. There was a problem with some of the factory barrels being too loose they replaced most of the Savage barrels with Anschutz. Hopefully you got one with the tighter Anschutz barrel, because mine had the factory.
I am not trying to shoot down your purchase, but just wanted to give you a heads up.

I got better groups with a beater 6.5 X 55 Swede.
 
I used to shoot with the Todds, one would be a bit older than me at 51 and the other I am sure is gone by now?? Contact info??

I still have my first rifle which is a 950T which I used to make my first Bisley team in 79. You better drag that one out to Connaught this summer.

Ian Robertson
 
Childhood remberances come to mind every time I see a 950T.
As was stated by Maple_Leaf_Eh, my father had a hand in the design of the rifle.
his father and mine shot together for many years, BTW, and their picture is in a Dewar team photo elsewhere in this forum.
I have bought many 950T's in the last few years, just because.
They are an excellent rifle no matter if people say they are only a Savage!
I have seen these rifles with a good shooter behind them bughole at crazy distances.
The action BTW, is a J style action, a true medium length.
The barrels were not marked, so it would be hard to tell if the one you have is a Savage or an Anschutz, which may be a Krupp.

Try a few different loads in it , and if you can't get it to group, no sweat.
Send it to Keith Cunnigham and he can rebarrel it cheaper than any other rifle because of the barrel nut!:)
Cat
 
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maple_leaf_eh said:
That was at Jason's wasn't it?

Bob Todd worked at CIL in the '60s when all the DCRA shooters were looking for alternatives to No.4s for bullseye shooting. His son posts on this forum. You rifle is directly attributable to a real person, a dad and a pretty good Bisley shooter. CIL was very active in the shooting sports, both making and selling lots of ammo, but partnering with Savage for guns to the Canadian market. Maybe your 950 is not his personal rifle, but part of a product line that he convinced management to import for a particular user segment.

Here is something else I found on a sniper site that might be informative. http://www.snipercountry.com/hottips/RifleCIL.htm
I just looked at the link.
The 950 C was a savage 110 with a detachable clip magazine.
The stocks were made by Sile, many with roll over cheek piecees and rosewood grip caps.
Very nice rifles.

cat
 
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Ian Robertson said:
I used to shoot with the Todds, one would be a bit older than me at 51 and the other I am sure is gone by now?? Contact info??

I still have my first rifle which is a 950T which I used to make my first Bisley team in 79. You better drag that one out to Connaught this summer.

Ian Robertson

Howdy Ian!
The Captain (older brother John) retired, then reinlisted, and lives near Halifax.
Sadly, he does not shoot anymore, but he did come out West a few years back for a holiday and I can tell you for certain that he is still very capable with either rifle or shotgun.
I don't know many men who could stay away from civilian weapons for over 20 years and start busting clays at 200 meters with an iron sighted Ruger RSI - offhand , no less!!
Dad went to quieter ranges Sept. 6, 2001.
He is dearly missed.....
David Henry Todd
 
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Try a few different loads in it , and if you can't get it to group, no sweat.
Send it to Keith Cunnigham and he can rebarrel it cheaper than any other rifle because of the barrel nut!:)
Cat

Keith Cunningham and Linda Miller run Milcun Shooting Complex in Minden ON. They are trainers, shooters and mentors - each in equal measures. Fine people and a couple who seem genuinely in love. Keith pays some of the bills by gunsmithing. He will put a new barrel on your rifle that will be rifled and chambered to your choice of bullet. Work he did on a rifle of mine is better than my shooting.
 
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I am hoping this rifle will allow me to be somewhat competitive this summer (although I doubt it). LOL. I have zero wind doping experience, or, shooting over 200yds for that matter.

Stewie

Never underestimate yourself. The shooting game is 95% mental and the other 10% is physical.

You should consider yourself lucky to have started with a good rifle. I don't know who sold it, but there were a couple at Jason's that came from a retired DCRA shooter. One that had been owned by Alain Marion (Order of Canada for shooting). Every shooter has two or five guns in rotation at any one time, so yours was a #1 gun at one point in time. Barrels were not as easy to get once upon a time, and they were shooting military issue ball ammo. Some years it was tackdriver stuff, other years feckin' horrid. But, with the new rules for anything goes, the guys are loading really good bullets on really good loads and shooting really good scores.

The best way to learn the wind on is to shoot at Connaught. The National Capital Region Rifle Association are (and Ian R. will have to bite his tongue) a bunch of old fuddy duddies who treat all new members with great suspicion. You must remember most of them are elite athletes trying for positions on international teams, and really are not interested in coaching or development. Sad but true. So, as long as you are safe and pick up the rythm on the range, they will tolerate you. They have practice nights in early summer - get your ass out there and start hammering targets. There is no substitute for trigger time.

For the first year, expect to shooting very badly and wonder why you bother trying. But keep coming out. Go to the matches, and get into a groove. Then, you will understand the lifelong passion of target shooting.

(My excuses are simple - a young son who needs his daddy and a demanding employer that pays well but wants a lot.)
 
Well, I went to the range today (Sunday morning) and frankly conditions could not have been worse. Winds gusting 25-30kph from right to left then changing to blowing directly into me, then changing again. Some of the worse I have ever tried to shoot in I could barely see the target my eyes were watering so much. But anyway so much for excuses. After bore sighting @ 50yds and taking a couple of shots using Winchester 150grn hunting bullets moved out to 100yds, I took another couple of shots to get on the target.

Front rest only, Browning 3-9X40 well...the pictures speak for themselves.

Really, I'm not all that dissapointed considering the foul conditions and crap ammo. The trigger is quite heavy which is definitely a contributing factor. I also shot my .22-250 Rem (the top target using handloads) with a much lighter trigger and the groups reflect that. Bought some Sierra 168grn SMK's on the way home.

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Stewie
 
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Were you at Stittsville bright and blowing early Sunday? When I got there about 9:45 three other guys were shooting. You must have been on the left end with the Savage 99. I was on the other end fireforming. Six degrees of separation!!
 
I was in Smiths Falls, all by my lonesome. It's a pretty quiet range, a lot of guys shoot pistol there. There have been plenty of times when I have had the whole place to myself.
 
Which group for f-class would this particular rifle place me in? It's not exactly factory production. Would it be considered a "custom"? I ask this because of another post regarding a Rem 40X.
 
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