New Rules for Ontario Big Game Hunters

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Taken off the Minisry of Natural Resources site:

If you hunt in Ontario, natural attractants containing body parts of any member of the deer family may no longer be possessed or used for the purposes of hunting

If you hunt outside of Ontario and want to possess and/or bring in carcasses or parts of members of the deer family (i.e., deer, American elk, moose and caribou) from out of province, you need to know about the new regulations. These changes are now in effect.
Natural attractants containing body parts of any member of the deer family may no longer be possessed or used for the purposes of hunting.

Full article:

http://www.mnr.gov.on.ca/stdprodconsume/groups/lr/@mnr/@fw/documents/abstract/stdprod_068528.pdf

http://www.mnr.gov.on.ca/en/Business/FW/2ColumnSubPage/STEL02_173985.html
 
Thats what I gather from it. I am also wondering if we can still use rattling antlers cut off a deer. "Natural attractants containing body parts of any member of the deer family may no longer be possessed or used for the purposes of hunting" I have already ruled out the use of tarsal gland scent drags. Ill be calling the ministry sometime next week for clarification. A seized bow/gun and fine would not be worth a simple mistake.
 
What a f**king joke. Like a set of deer antlers in the trunk of my car is going to infect the local deer herd with CWD...:rolleyes:

I wonder what the fine is? Are they going to search every car/truck coming from out of province?;)
 
After reading the MNR news release it sounds like no out of province trophy hunting for you guys! No antlers from out of province, that sucks.

read the regs.
you can possess antlers and antlers with a skull cap so long as 1) they are separate from the rest of the skull and 2) all meat and tissue have been removed

Still, not being able to use lures really sucks. McSquinty strikes again. How much longer are we going to have to put up with this deceitfull little bastard?
 
Ya gotta love Ontario government.... mad cow? Or is it just control for the sake of control?

They are trying to prevent the spread of CWD, although no one has any proof that urine spreads the disease. I can see within 2 years they will put a complete ban on baiting deer as well.
 
Does Buck Stop and other simialr brand attractants fall under this new ban as well? If I remember correctly, aren't these attractants made with real urine and scent glands?
 
HERE IS THE PRESS RELEASE FROM OFAH

To view this release online, please visit
http://www.ofahnews.com/display.php?M=14840=4d1e437a538ceec8b9d91f9c0062a0de=121=15=68

OFAH FILE: 842
August 20, 2010
For Immediate Release

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
MNR bungles latest regulation to prevent CWD
Changes do little to stop spread of deadly disease and retailers pay the
price
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Earlier this week, Minister of Natural Resources Linda Jeffrey signed an
order banning the possession and use of natural products containing body
parts or fluids from members of the deer family for the purposes of hunting
in Ontario. The move, along with two other regulatory changes relating to
the movement of animals and animal parts, was supposedly designed to
prevent the introduction and spread of Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) in
Ontario. Unfortunately, these half measures fall far short of what actions
should have been taken, and not only fail to address the problem, they
leave outdoors retailers on the cusp of hunting season with inventories of
natural deer attractants that can be sold, but no longer be used by
hunters, at least in Ontario.

CWD is a fatal degenerative brain disease that affects members of the deer
family, including moose, elk and potentially caribou. The disease has
established a significant foothold in Alberta and Saskatchewan and fifteen
U.S. states, but has yet to be discovered in Ontario. The main source for
the spread of the disease is game farms for deer and elk, the same source
of the products now banned by the Ministry. Unfortunately, the new
regulations do nothing to eliminate the primary source of the disease (game
farms), do not prohibit the sale and use of the product for uses other than
hunting, and have not taken into consideration the losses that will be
suffered by retailers. Several ministries share responsibility for keeping
CWD out of the province, including the MNR, Ontario Ministry of
Agriculture, Food and Rural Affairs (OMAFRA), Ministry of Consumer Services
(MCS) and the Canadian Food Inspection Agency (CFIA), but a concerted plan
of action, even among provincial ministries, is sadly lacking.

"Two years ago, the O.F.A.H. told the MNR that if they intended to ban
natural attractants, they needed to give retailers sufficient lead time to
source out alternative products, and needed to ban the sale, not just the
possession of these products if they were serious about preventing the
potential introduction of CWD to Ontario. They didn't listen, and as a
result, retailers are left holding the bag. The new regulations are nothing
more than a band aid that achieves little of real value in terms of
eradicating the threat posed by the disease," said Dr. Terry Quinney,
Provincial Manager of Fish and Wildlife Services. "By allowing the
continued sale of these products for uses other than hunting, they have not
stopped the products from potentially introducing the disease into the
wild, and have placed retailers in an awkward, and potentially legally
tenuous position. In fact, our legal counsel tells us that by selling the
product, retailers may leave themselves open to charges under Section 77 of
the Provincial Offenses Act. Only by banning the sale and use of the
product by all potential users, not just hunters, restricting the movement
of animals and animal parts from outside the province, and banning deer and
elk farms, the major source for the transmission of the disease, with
compensation to the owners, would the government come close to achieving
their stated goal. The MNR has failed Ontario's wildlife."

Dr. Quinney also noted the irony that the MNR has not banned the sale and
use of these attractants by Ontario hunters in other jurisdictions. "It's
illogical that the MNR would ban the use of a product in Ontario, but not
prevent the sale of the product to be used in other provinces. You have to
question why the government, with its focus on 'biodiversity,' refuses to
ban deer and elk farms, and is instead seemingly content to introduce
regulations that target hunters and outdoors retailers, without addressing
the major source of the disease itself."

With over 100,000 members, subscribers and supporters, and 670 member
clubs, the O.F.A.H. is the largest nonprofit, charitable, fishing, hunting
and conservation-based organization in Ontario, and the voice of anglers
and hunters. For more information, visit www.ofah.org.

-30-

Contact

Dr. Terry Quinney PhD
Provincial Manager of Fish and Wildlife Services
705-748-6324 ext 242

Greg Farrant
Manager, Government Affairs and Policy
705-748-6324 ext 236
 
HERE IS THE PRESS RELEASE FROM OFAH

To view this release online, please visit
http://www.ofahnews.com/display.php?M=14840=4d1e437a538ceec8b9d91f9c0062a0de=121=15=68

OFAH FILE: 842
August 20, 2010
For Immediate Release

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
MNR bungles latest regulation to prevent CWD
Changes do little to stop spread of deadly disease and retailers pay the
price
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Earlier this week, Minister of Natural Resources Linda Jeffrey signed an
order banning the possession and use of natural products containing body
parts or fluids from members of the deer family for the purposes of hunting
in Ontario. The move, along with two other regulatory changes relating to
the movement of animals and animal parts, was supposedly designed to
prevent the introduction and spread of Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) in
Ontario. Unfortunately, these half measures fall far short of what actions
should have been taken, and not only fail to address the problem, they
leave outdoors retailers on the cusp of hunting season with inventories of
natural deer attractants that can be sold, but no longer be used by
hunters, at least in Ontario.

CWD is a fatal degenerative brain disease that affects members of the deer
family, including moose, elk and potentially caribou. The disease has
established a significant foothold in Alberta and Saskatchewan and fifteen
U.S. states, but has yet to be discovered in Ontario. The main source for
the spread of the disease is game farms for deer and elk, the same source
of the products now banned by the Ministry. Unfortunately, the new
regulations do nothing to eliminate the primary source of the disease (game
farms), do not prohibit the sale and use of the product for uses other than
hunting, and have not taken into consideration the losses that will be
suffered by retailers. Several ministries share responsibility for keeping
CWD out of the province, including the MNR, Ontario Ministry of
Agriculture, Food and Rural Affairs (OMAFRA), Ministry of Consumer Services
(MCS) and the Canadian Food Inspection Agency (CFIA), but a concerted plan
of action, even among provincial ministries, is sadly lacking.

"Two years ago, the O.F.A.H. told the MNR that if they intended to ban
natural attractants, they needed to give retailers sufficient lead time to
source out alternative products, and needed to ban the sale, not just the
possession of these products if they were serious about preventing the
potential introduction of CWD to Ontario. They didn't listen, and as a
result, retailers are left holding the bag. The new regulations are nothing
more than a band aid that achieves little of real value in terms of
eradicating the threat posed by the disease," said Dr. Terry Quinney,
Provincial Manager of Fish and Wildlife Services. "By allowing the
continued sale of these products for uses other than hunting, they have not
stopped the products from potentially introducing the disease into the
wild, and have placed retailers in an awkward, and potentially legally
tenuous position. In fact, our legal counsel tells us that by selling the
product, retailers may leave themselves open to charges under Section 77 of

the Provincial Offenses Act. Only by banning the sale and use of the
product by all potential users, not just hunters, restricting the movement
of animals and animal parts from outside the province, and banning deer and
elk farms, the major source for the transmission of the disease, with
compensation to the owners, would the government come close to achieving
their stated goal. The MNR has failed Ontario's wildlife."

Dr. Quinney also noted the irony that the MNR has not banned the sale and
use of these attractants by Ontario hunters in other jurisdictions. "It's
illogical that the MNR would ban the use of a product in Ontario, but not
prevent the sale of the product to be used in other provinces. You have to
question why the government, with its focus on 'biodiversity,' refuses to
ban deer and elk farms, and is instead seemingly content to introduce
regulations that target hunters and outdoors retailers, without addressing
the major source of the disease itself."

With over 100,000 members, subscribers and supporters, and 670 member
clubs, the O.F.A.H. is the largest nonprofit, charitable, fishing, hunting
and conservation-based organization in Ontario, and the voice of anglers
and hunters. For more information, visit www.ofah.org.

-30-

Contact

Dr. Terry Quinney PhD
Provincial Manager of Fish and Wildlife Services
705-748-6324 ext 242

Greg Farrant
Manager, Government Affairs and Policy
705-748-6324 ext 236

If I was a retailer I'd go after the government myself over this. You ban it but let me keep selling only to set me up for a court case. Good old McScrewball.:rolleyes:
 
Just got an email on this and again the Ministry is not listening to the people it states are their ears to issues.

This is now signed law with no lead time to get these out of the system or to give retailers a fair chance to replace this with non animal based products. Seems this is in respect to chronic wasting disease which for the most part has other avenues in which to get into the Ontario population of deer, ones that they refuse to address.

Be aware if you are caught using these and you will be charged, if proof of where the scent was purchased in Ontario is given (still legal for store to sell, you just can not use in Ontario) the vendor can also be charged.

In this economy this blatant abuse of power by the Minister will cost retailers across Ontario in a negative way. They have invested money in stock and are not allowed enough time to find new product and will have product on the shelves that will not move.

Like the federal Liberals, the provincal arm of the regime seems to just not look at facts, just what will get them votes with certain groups.

Below are the numbers to call to voice your concern on this issue, if you value what your Archery or Gun Dealer does for you call and tell this Minister how you feel the negative impact of this blind side willl have.

Minister's Office

Phone: 1-416-314-2301
Fax : 1-416-325-5316

Lindsay Maskell, Chief of Staff, Minister's Office

Phone: 1-416-314-2210

Bob Beneteau
Chairperson Gesto GameGetters
 
The new regulations are nothing more than a band aid that achieves little of real value in terms of eradicating the threat posed
Hmmmmm. Sounds like a federal lieberal program that was introduced about 15 years ago...
 
I would hope that if anyone does use this stuff and gets charged, PLEASE do not tell them where you bought it! Or at least say Walmart, not a mom & pop shop.

Walmart will win any court case, and will survive, but the little guys might not.

WELCOME TO BANTARIO...this province and the MNR has completely gone off the rails. Change is needed.

Out of control!
 
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