New shipment arrived...

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We just received a new shipment of product and are in the processing of updating the website...

- A few more FN PS90's arrived
- More PS90 magazines
- We have a few RRA-AR1286 National Match A4's available
- SIG P239 Tacticals finally arrived... still a couple left available
- Variety of RRA parts and accessories

Most everything should be up on the site by Monday or Tuesday...

Plus there's some new items that have arrived and that we'll be making some announcements about over the next week or so... check the site regularly for latest info...

Mark
 
Lets see how fast these PS90's go

Does it help if I tell you I'm aware of at least one Canadian dealer who is working on importing 100's of cases of 5.7x28 ammo? The inventory exists and it's just a matter of completing paperwork and getting it physically to Canada.

The ammo may be in short supply at this moment but within 60 days I think you'll see all the ammo you want, quite readily available.

Mark
 
I already have 2k and 2k more on order. Maybe I should cancel my order till I find out the cost of this new ammo since the ammo I have on order is stupid expensive. $45 per 50


Update just cancelled my other order in hope that this new batch of ammo will be cheaper.
 
I already have 2k and 2k more on order. Maybe I should cancel my order till I find out the cost of this new ammo since the ammo I have on order is stupid expensive. $45 per 50

The stuff isn't cheap to begin with. I don't know what Canadian pricing will be (not up to me and they haven't given me any indication).

If I had to guess I'd probably figure $40 to $45 per box based on case quantities. Between permit costs, transport costs and everything else, it really ads up... plus no-one works for free so they'll expect to make a profit for investing the money and the effort to bring it in.

It's also a catch 22 in a way... limited number of guns in Canada so it's not like there are thousands of people waiting to buy the ammo... and when you only bring in a couple hundred cases instead of skid loads of cases the cost per unit remains quite high. Over time I think you'll continue to see the cost of the 5.7x28 ammo come down... just my opinion of course ;)

I can see it selling in the $35 to $40 range in the not too distant future as quantities increase and US shortages decrease.

Mark
 
PS90 Pricing

I'm trying to wrap my head around the price for the PS90s you have for sale. Even if they are the USG model or triple rail model they only go for $ 2,000 max in the US. Assuming a 25% retail margin to be conservative that would mean a US cost of about $1,500.

I know the DOS raised pricing and there are small exchange differences and shipping. I have no idea about duty but if they are FNH USA then there should be none as they are US manufacture which makes sense becasue that is the only way they get into the US.

I begrudge no one a profit either but this seems high especially when you work the numbers back to the cost side in the US as I would assume you are getting them from FNH USA or a FNH USA wholesaler.

Having said that I am sure you will sell all that you have. I'll import my own.
 
I'm trying to wrap my head around the price for the PS90s you have for sale. Even if they are the USG model or triple rail model they only go for $ 2,000 max in the US. Assuming a 25% retail margin to be conservative that would mean a US cost of about $1,500.

I know the DOS raised pricing and there are small exchange differences and shipping. I have no idea about duty but if they are FNH USA then there should be none as they are US manufacture which makes sense becasue that is the only way they get into the US.

I begrudge no one a profit either but this seems high especially when you work the numbers back to the cost side in the US as I would assume you are getting them from FNH USA or a FNH USA wholesaler.

Having said that I am sure you will sell all that you have. I'll import my own.

As you attempt to import your own, you'll realize why the prices are where they are. Good luck.
 
I'm trying to wrap my head around the price for the PS90s you have for sale. Even if they are the USG model or triple rail model they only go for $ 2,000 max in the US. Assuming a 25% retail margin to be conservative that would mean a US cost of about $1,500.

I know the DOS raised pricing and there are small exchange differences and shipping. I have no idea about duty but if they are FNH USA then there should be none as they are US manufacture which makes sense becasue that is the only way they get into the US.

I begrudge no one a profit either but this seems high especially when you work the numbers back to the cost side in the US as I would assume you are getting them from FNH USA or a FNH USA wholesaler.

Having said that I am sure you will sell all that you have. I'll import my own.

When you get it let me know how it worked out... we spent a lot of money and a lot of time over the past 3 years trying to get export permits and finally suceeded in getting one for a small number of units... probably more a mistake on State Department's part than anything else. You make it sound like there's nothing to it... but there hasn't been a successful export permit application for these (by anyone) in over 3 years and many have tried.

You have no idea what costs are (you're guessing and when you guess that US dealers work on 25% margins it shows you have no clue what the gun business is like in the US... down there dealers sell guns at $50 and $100 over cost... many guns are actually sold at "Dealer" cost pricing which is little more than Distributor pricing.

I make no apoplogies for the price we set on these... in fact had I wanted to I could have easily put them up 1 at a time for auction... when we announced we had acquired a few we were getting "offers" from buyers in the $6,000 and $7,000 range because of how rare they were. Instead of going that route we set a price we felt was fair (for us and for the few lucky customers that will end up with them).

You are entitled to your opinion and I hope that State Department keeps approving export permit applications for these guns. We submitted more RWA and DENIED permit applications than I can count over the past 3 years... so pay your exporter to make the application and then cross your fingers that you don't lose your fees when it's denied. Maybe after a few lost permit applications you'll be able to "wrap your head around" the price :)

Mark
 
Hopefully you'll have one kicking around June 2010. I have to wait till then for my finances to recover.
 
Got it now.

Well that explains it well. Thank you Mark.

First, I was not looking for apologies for your price. Just wanted to understand it better. I used "assuming" because I was only guessing and was looking for a bit of education on it. Sounds like the snowmobile and boat business down in the US.

I really did not mean to evoke the terse response that I received nor was I trying to be rude. But I'll accept it as is. I do think your firm does great work. The internet is a double edged sword. Its easy to see prices but not so easy to see why. Perhaps firearms in the US are too cheap!
 
Well that explains it well. Thank you Mark.

First, I was not looking for apologies for your price. Just wanted to understand it better. I used "assuming" because I was only guessing and was looking for a bit of education on it. Sounds like the snowmobile and boat business down in the US.

I really did not mean to evoke the terse response that I received nor was I trying to be rude. But I'll accept it as is. I do think your firm does great work. The internet is a double edged sword. Its easy to see prices but not so easy to see why. Perhaps firearms in the US are too cheap!

A terse response would be a much shorter response without any emotion.
 
Any chances on getting any spare short barrels for the PS90?

We're working on it and hope to have something in that regards by December (no details at this time so please bombard us with questions about when and how much... simply don't have answers at this time :)).

Mark
 
Well that explains it well. Thank you Mark.

First, I was not looking for apologies for your price. Just wanted to understand it better. I used "assuming" because I was only guessing and was looking for a bit of education on it. Sounds like the snowmobile and boat business down in the US.

I really did not mean to evoke the terse response that I received nor was I trying to be rude. But I'll accept it as is. I do think your firm does great work. The internet is a double edged sword. Its easy to see prices but not so easy to see why. Perhaps firearms in the US are too cheap!

I don't mean to be snippy but I get this so often (and usually we're outright accused of ripping people off and price gouging... another favorite term)... anyway... the whole issue of "why is the Canadian price so much higher than the US price when currency is only..." comes up weekly in one THREAD or another and after a few years of answering them I guess my answers can sometimes get snarky... especially when I've been having a particularly stressful day :) ... so for that I'm sorry.

There is never going to be parity with the US pricing... because the currency exchange rate (while it does play a factor) actually plays only a small factor in what makes up the Canadian price for someone like us (an importer). Most dealers have absolutely no control over any of it... they buy from a Canadian distributor/importer who sets wholesale pricing at whatever they want and who add their distributor markup in... then the dealer pays another round of shipping costs and marks up the product so they can pay their costs... they are unaware of what the original currency costs were or what import costs were.

For us we import everything ourselves so we do see the effect of currency... but there is a lag time... currency can take anywhere from 1 week (in some rare cases) to 4 or 5 months (when old stock takes time to sell off) before the currency changes work their way through the supply chain. Ultimately though the bulk of the difference in pricing between US and Canada is the result of export costs, import costs, customs charges, overhead costs (which in Canada are MUCH higher than the US) and the need to make a profit on a much smaller volume of sales than US dealers have to work with. An average US dealer will sell 10 to 20 times (minimum) more than an average Canadian dealer annually... they can afford to work on 10% margins (and less)... especially when they have very little internal paperwork to do (compared to Canada) and they can even drop ship so they never even touch the merchandise themselves (just have it shipped direct from the Distributors warehouse to the customer's door).

Even if the currency is at PAR my costs and overheads don't change... the difference between US and Canadian pricing is NOT currency... you're paying for our services... that's the point I wish people would understand.

I'm never going to be able to be "price competitive" when compared to the price that Brownells will sell you a small part for... but when it comes to major parts and accessories, or firearms, we have a track record of being able to 'get' stuff that no-one else can and for that you pay for our services... simple as that.

If people want to pay US Prices for goods I'll be happy to charge you the same US price you see advertised elsewhere... you pay me in US dollars... and you figure out how you're getting it out of the US and into Canada (legally) on your own. :) If you want us to export it, transport it, clear it through customs, register it and process it for sale then you pay us in Canadian dollars with our markup added to cover our costs for all of those services and our profit built in. Not an unrealistic expectation on our part :)

Mark
 
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