New Tavor - Problems

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I bought a brand new Tavor 18". One of the main reasons I bought this rifle was for it's reliability but so far I have had nothing but problems.

Day one as the range the magazines would not seat on a closed bolt. I had a feeding jam and several misfires.

I took the gun back to the store and said I wanted it exchanged due to the problems I was having. They said they would not exchange it but could have someone look at it.

Day two, the magazines will still not seat on a closed bolt. This is with Pmag Gen 3 and also LAR magazines. If I load the Pmags with 4 rounds they function a bit better but still not 100%.

Three times a round chambers and then just *click* when I pull the trigger with no strike on the primer. These problems were witnessed by several people at a shooting event.

I don't know what to do, I had just laid down $4K for the rifle and optics and it doesn't work :mad:
 
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humm, strange... how does it work with the 5/45 round mag that came with the tavor, does it insert on a closed bolt when filled at 5 rounds?

i dont use my pmags or my lar mags in my tavor, i use the atrs mags or the pcv beowolf mags, both seat on a closed bolt when full, BUT i had to shave the mags to prevent some bolt wear. Im wondering did you check your pmags to make absolutely sure they dont lift the bolt catch when loaded? TV had this issue with pmags, eventually had primer strike issues then ruined his bolt. Both my atrs and my pcv had to be shaved as they lifted the bolt open catch.

I might be going to pcdhf on monday morning if you want me to take a look at it and compare with mine.

I have to say the tavor has yet to give me one single failure, been over a year of shooting with it now.
 
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My'n doesn't seat mag well with a closed bolt either. This is with USGI mags, LARs, and Beowulf mags. Doesn't bother me one bit. Sort of makes sense in a way. I mean, it's designed to fight with. Having a full mag in the gun without one in the chamber seems kinda stupid with that type of rifle. That being said, if I give my USGI mags a good whack on the bottom they'll eventually seat on a closed bolt. Just takes some elbow grease.

I have no idea about the OP's other issues. Check to see if your firing pin/spring are alright maybe?
 
First thing I'd do is disassemble, clean, lube and reassemble the rifle and then go from there. As for the mags not inserting on a closed bolt, that is a mag problem, not a rifle problem.
 
Check your firing pin spring. That is the only thing that may be causing no primer strikes. Make sure it assembled correctly. If the spring is bound up between the bolt and firing pin you will get "click" instead of "BANG".
 
Magazines not seating on a closed bolt are NOT a rifle problem, they are a pinned magazine problem. LAR mags are tight when full and inserting on a closed bolt. Welcome to Canada.
 
Give the mags a good smack when on a closed bolt, won't hurt the gun. You don't need to be gentle with the tavor. They are built/designed for it. I have a mag that is pinned so tight I can't even smack it in on a closed bolt. Oh well the rest work, but need a good smack for some of them. All are gen 2 pmags plus 1 metal E Lander mag that came with it. Get used to canadian magazines. It's bull####. Just remember these words when shooting:

LOOK
TAP
RACK

when the gun fails to fire, usually solves firing problems that don't involve any type of jam.
 
Thanks for the feedback guys. I do find it strange that it's a problem with all my mags though. I have other rifles and pinned mags has never been an issue before.

The misfires also bother me. I have lost confidence in the rifle and would rather just return or exchange it.
 
Are you sure you put everything back together properly after tearing it down?did you happen to try and play with the trigger springs for a lighter pull? The no bang with a click seems odd to go along with the mag issue.
 
blueskies said:
Thanks for the feedback guys. I do find it strange that it's a problem with all my mags though. I have other rifles and pinned mags has never been an issue before.

The misfires also bother me. I have lost confidence in the rifle and would rather just return or exchange it.
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The mags will always be an issue so long as we are forced to have them pinned. As for the misfires, that is really odd. My bets are on that some how yours has been improperly assembled or put together with out of spec parts... I have NEVER seen a tavor have a problem that wasn't A) due to user error, B) faulty mags. Tavors seem to just run like champs in general.

The missfires should not happen, UNLESS you happen to have a Timney trigger, the seem to be faulty, but that does not sound to be the case here.

If you keep having problems with no luck, give Jon at North Sylva a call. I am fairly certian he will get you fixed up. 1 (416) 242-4867
 
Misfires could also be because u are riding the charging handle. You have to let the charging handle go completely with the tavor until it's broke in or the bolt won't be seated into position completely and it won't fire.
 
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Misfires could also be because u are riding the charging handle. You have to let the charging handle go completely with the tavor until it's broke in or the bolt won't be seated into position completely and it won't fire.
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I agree I don't know why people ride the bolt, don't be afraid to let it slam home, won't hurt the gun one bit. It's designed to be let go. Empty or not. As well, for the miss fires, Check your firing pin and bolt assembly and make sure all is assembled properly. Make sure the firing pin spring is installed the right way, I know if it's backwards it can cause misfires. Weird design bit yea.
 
mrsmitty is right

The charging handle have a lock (the small metal piece in the front of the handle) . If it's unlock , your bolt is out of battery (the bolt is not fully in the in place) That why you ave a Click and not a boom.

Close the bolt and make sure the handle lock positively .

You can open the bolt and close it by releasing the bolt release. The handle should lock. Pull it just a little bit and you will feel it unlock.
 
I'm sure Tavors were all test fired in the factory before they leave the factory.

I think the OP's problem is possibly due to:

1. Improperly pinned mag, but we don't want mags pinned to 5.9 so that a sixth round can be hammer in if one really wants to prove a point.

2. Misfires may be due to bad primer seating(Norinco ammo). Or simply because an out of battery situation.

3. Lubrication may play a role, but they're designed to run in the sand box.
 
blueskies said:
Thanks for the feedback guys. I do find it strange that it's a problem with all my mags though. I have other rifles and pinned mags has never been an issue before.

The misfires also bother me. I have lost confidence in the rifle and would rather just return or exchange it.
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Insert 5 round mag with a closed bolt on a Tavor is not easy. Four round mag inserts into a closed bolt is easier. I think the Tavor's bolt carrier assembly is a bit thicker and compresses the 5 round mag together.

I would agree with others while cocking the Tavor - pull the charging handle all the way back and let it slam forward.
 
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