New to shotgun ammo... Is this normal?

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Got a box of 100 shotgun shells fr my brother for my birthday, Winchester universal 12ga 2 3/4" 8shot and opened the box up and there were 4 boxes of 25 I it and one sounded like there was stuff rattling around inside... Open it up and found this...

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I've found a couple like that before, just with so many being popped out it's bound to happen once in a while kinda like empty (powderless) 22lrs in bulk.
 
It's not normal, but any item made out of plastic in bulk and designed to rapidly disassemble itself under pressure is going to have the odd failure. If you call Winchester they might send you a coupon or a free hat or something, but realistically it was a $0.50 round at most.
 
Yeah, I know it's not "normal" but wondered is failures like this are this regular with cheap 12ga ammo.

Sure is, I have found the same many times. Universal is winchesters cheapest ammo. Just toss that shell and use the rest. For what its worth I have found Federal to be higher quality, that being said one dud out of 100 inst a big deal when it sells for 30 bucks. You wont find that with high brass or non-toxic.
 
Winchester will do nothing about it. I have contacted them many times about some bad steel shot. They do not care one iota about the end users unless it creates a multimillion dollar law suit.
 
The producers of economy shotgun shells make so little profit on those shell that they don't really care.

Yes, it happens. It doesn't matter who manufactures anything, screw ups happen.

In the case of the shotgun shells you show, I've shot thousands upon thousands of them. I had one box, with one just like that.

You're a lucky man to get one in a million or less. Go right out and buy a lottery ticket.
 
Go to You Toob. There are about a thousand idiots who will have a thousand different things you can stuff in that hull and shoot. No don't do it I am just kidding, but you would not beleive how some guys would exploit that type of hull you have there.
Darryl
 
Lmaooo at call Winchester and what, get em to send you 3 shot gun shells

call and let them know about a failure in their quality control.

If I were a manufacturer I would like to know about what I am doing well and where I could improve.

I was just wondering here if this is normal for this type of shell, if it were, then I would be switching to a different product that is a little more reliable / consistent. I like failures to be fractions of a percentage. As of right now it's at a full 1%.

I'm new to shotgun but have fired thousands of rounds of 9mm and .22LR and have not come close to a tenth of a percentage of failures and of the ones I've had, it's been .22LR that have just failed to fire, not that they had their projectile loose in the box and had raw powder strewn about inside the box.
 
call and let them know about a failure in their quality control.

If I were a manufacturer I would like to know about what I am doing well and where I could improve.

I was just wondering here if this is normal for this type of shell, if it were, then I would be switching to a different product that is a little more reliable / consistent. I like failures to be fractions of a percentage. As of right now it's at a full 1%.

I'm new to shotgun but have fired thousands of rounds of 9mm and .22LR and have not come close to a tenth of a percentage of failures and of the ones I've had, it's been .22LR that have just failed to fire, not that they had their projectile loose in the box and had raw powder strewn about inside the box.

They are so big and so overwhelmed with orders that they could care less about 3 shells thats all im saying
 
from my limited experience with winchester 12ga 7.5 shot, yes it is normal. Usually 1 every 2nd box or so.
Also have problems with the thin aluminum base over-expanding (guessing the term) and jamming in the chamber and not extracting from a m500 and 870 exp-tac, thus requiring a pushrod from muzzle to push out.
 
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