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Salut!

I am very, very new to the hobby. I just completed my CFSC and I want to buy a decent entry-level flintlock (not percussion cap) rifle and I need some advice on what to buy and where I might look to buy. I was originally hoping to buy a reprouction Baker rifle until I found the prices to be in the $800 range :eek:. This is a little unfortunate because it was the loan of a few Sharpe's Rifles book that began my interest and made me run out to get my CFSC. Yes, I realize NOW that I didn't need this to get a flintlock, but I'm glad I did it anyhow.

S.I.R. (in Winnipeg) sells the Traditions brand, but I have been warned to steer clear of that manufacturer. This leaves me unsure of the alternatives. Some good advice on what to buy and where would be very welcome.

Thanks in advance,

ulf
 
the most critical part of a flintlock is the lock; preferrably it should be a Siler or an L&R lock and those locks alone run around $110 US. Possible you can find a L&R made drop in lock that will fit a less expensive rifle. Also stay away from Spanish made rifles; they have a poor vent system in the breach.
I would suggest joining the local club and trying some of the rifles used there to get an idea of what is good and bad.

cheers mooncoon
 
Best buy in a flintlock that you won't HAVED to immediately change the lock on are the Lyman made flintlocks. The Pedersoli ones are good too but will require you to pre-knap all your flints as it has a short jaw. Many Armi Sport guns are OK too, but also need short flints like the Pedersoli.

If you need a trasitional looking military pattern gun, Pedersoli is likely the way to go if you don't want anything custom made or REALLY expensive. If you want traditional but don;t care about the military pattern, get a Lyman Great Plains or a Thompson Center Hawken in .50 or .54

That's my $.02 worth ;)
 
I would strongly suggest avoiding guns with small locks where you have to use tiny flints or preknap the flints shorter. Small locks are a pain in the bum and you will get relatively few shots before you have to replace the flint. You should further expect to have to recase the frizzen on all of the foreign made locks.

cheers mooncoon
 
ulfilas said:
Salut!

I am very, very new to the hobby. I just completed my CFSC and I want to buy a decent entry-level flintlock (not percussion cap) rifle and I need some advice on what to buy and where I might look to buy. I was originally hoping to buy a reprouction Baker rifle until I found the prices to be in the $800 range :eek:. This is a little unfortunate because it was the loan of a few Sharpe's Rifles book that began my interest and made me run out to get my CFSC. Yes, I realize NOW that I didn't need this to get a flintlock, but I'm glad I did it anyhow.

S.I.R. (in Winnipeg) sells the Traditions brand, but I have been warned to steer clear of that manufacturer. This leaves me unsure of the alternatives. Some good advice on what to buy and where would be very welcome.

Thanks in advance,

ulf
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+-i would say :) buy a cheappy..... once you blast off a round..... you will know if you want to venture more...
the first one i bought...was a tradition,s lightning....
dont believe what they say till you tied your self...i always giggle at the they said....like who are they?
 
I have a new .54 cal lyman great plains, done in a rust finish. I might be selling it. I would be asking about 75$ under retail and no tax or anything.

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I have a new .54 cal lyman great plains, done in a rust finish. I might be selling it. I would be asking about 75$ under retail and no tax or anything.

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juanvaldez said:
I have a new .54 cal lyman great plains, done in a rust finish. I might be selling it. I would be asking about 75$ under retail and no tax or anything.

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How much would that be then?
 
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Lyman Trade Rifle

Thanks for all of the great advice! It is much appreciated. Unless there are any strong objections I'm thinking of going for the Lyman Trade Rifle, which seems to run anywhere from $300-$400 (though I'd gladly pick up a used one in very good condition).

I went to Cabella's and a store called Outdoorsman (?) yesterday in Grand Forks and looked through the selection. Some of the used ones are pretty reasonably priced, though I'm not sure what to look for in a used flintlock... I guess the same things as one would look for in a new flintlock. :)

Dan
 
fogducker said:
+-i would say :) I have been using a Traditions Hawken F.L. now going on 4 years.I have had no problems with it.I would suggest one to someone for a starter.Myself,I'm ready to upgrade.This rifle will stay,though so friends or family can use it at their first shoot.:)
Regards,Jed.
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ive let quite a few ppl try my m/l......... every one that got to shoot it are soon to be new buyer,s of a blackpowder......there are lots of fun.....
i kick my butt for not getting one years and years ago when i had the urge to own one
 
You won't regret it. I shoot blackpowder guns since 1976. I did shoot modern rifle, IPSC and PPC for 12 years but for me blackpowder shooting will ever still top for fun. Just keep it clean and keep your powder dry.;)

fogducker said:
ive let quite a few ppl try my m/l......... every one that got to shoot it are soon to be new buyer,s of a blackpowder......there are lots of fun.....
i kick my butt for not getting one years and years ago when i had the urge to own one
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I have participated in a public blackpowder demonstration up the Bruce Penninsula each winter for the last 3. This winter past saw a big interest from the onlookers and lots of questions afterwards.A decent rifle at an entry-level price(cheap)could help get some new people out to events.Unfortunatly,at 39years of age,I am one of the youngest participants at Ont. BP oriented events.
Regards,Jed.
 
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