New toy to test out the new DLASK lowers :)

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I know, it's pretty vanilla, but this brand new complete Armalite upper and bolt will go on a new DLASK stripped lower I bought yesterday.

The thread about DLASK lowers being out of spec and tight pin holes, etc. got me curious so I'm building another M4gery and I'm going to use the DLASK to find out for myself.

more to follow.

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PS: LPK is DPMS and butt is RRA 6 pos.
 
May I suggest you sell your DPMS LPK and install an ARmalite kit instead.

In my experience, Armalite has been a better fit and function in the old and new versions of Dlask lowers I've assembled so far. ARmalite also supplies coiled spring pins with their kits instead of the tension pins. The coiled spring pins are a breeze to install, reusable and hold the tension better than a squashed tension pin in a hole.
Coiled spring pins are available at your local hardware store separately. The trick is figuring out the exact size and length needed as a replacement for the trigger guard and bolt catch holes.

If your lower is a virgin new component, you may want to clean up the buffer retainer hole with an exact sized drill bit, BY HAND, BETWEEN YOUR FINGERS, to remove some of the burrs that may have been left behind and solidified by the anodizing.

I've also found that the safety detent hole needs to have the top of the inside ledge reamed deeper, or cleaned up, to allow the safety detent to sit deeper, so that the safety selector doesn't flap around. You'll need a very exact fitting end mill bit for that, or grind a drill bit flat for this adjustment.

Aside from this, I've been very pleased with the Dlask lowers I've built on.

Good luck.
 
Thanks for the advice, but I'm going to go ahead wit hthe LPK I have. Lots of ppl I know have put DMPS kits in their DAR701 receivers without incident. If it starts to not fit then I'll buy another kit.

Of course it helps that I got the DPMS kit for $60 and the Armalite is more than twice that... :shock:
 
Ok, well still waiting for some stuff to arrive in the mail (like the receiver...) but I'm one spte closer to a useable arm.

As I said, I had secured the new LPK, the butt, and the complete upper & bolt ass'y. The receiver is on the way, but I was missing sights.

I decided to go with the Matech BUIS as it's adjustable for windage and elevation for use as a primary sight, is low enough to fold away when mounting optics and means I can avoid a detachable carry handle.

Yes, I know, the KAC 600m BUIS is probably better or cooler or something, but I think the Matech will do and is also issued in US forces to some units, so it must be allright.

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Claven2...Just to add to Easy's excellent tips above, the hole for the tiny bolt catch plunger (or "detent") can also cause you some grief...it's always tight on a Dlask lower, and if the plunger pin jams into the bottom of the hole, you'll have a heck of a time getting the detent and spring out again. Use the same technique to clean up the hole as Easy describes for the buffer retaining hole.
 
Thanks for the tip guys - I've got a bunch of worn out cheapo drill bits just begging to be ground flat for cleaning AR15 receiver holes... :lol:

Still waiting for the receiver to arrive. Doubt this will get done for 2 more weeks even if it arrives today as deer season starts in my zone this weekend... :oops:
 
The lower that you bought, is it one of the new space age Dlask lowers, or just a regular style?

And, on a side note, which US Army regiment is issuing out airsoft BUIS'?
 
Woo-Hoo! Canada post was good to me today. My LPK and RRA 6-pos CAR stock arrived today :)

The LPK is DPMS and the Butt is a DEA contract Rock River Arms part. You'll notice it's in OEM packaging because I got it at the OEM level in the good old USA (with the proper state department export permits, of course). Worked out to about 1/2 the price it would have been from a Canadian dealer. It seems like good kit. No rattle in the buttstock (a very good thing).

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Dealer was "Jack's Black Rifle Shop". A great outfit in Pensylvania willing to deal with Canadians to get us our AR parts :wink:
 
OK, well it's review time. The lower arrived well packaged, bagged and with a light coat of oil. Unlike the last stripped DLASK lower I handled (with the white surface etched lettering) this one seems to be very uniformly finished and has no residue in ANY of the milling recesses or pin chanels from the anodizing process with the exception of the buffer retainer recess which cleaned out in about 4 seconds with an old .22 cal bore brush.

One thing I was a little disappointed at was the somewhat careless way the front of the mag well had the forging seam cleaned up. (see pics). Better than the DPMS lowers generally are, but certainly not Colt or Armalite machining either. Such a shame really as the rest of the machining on this lower is really first rate. Oh well, I can live with it.

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Although I was warned by more than a few CGN'ers via this thread and by pm that I'd have problems with a DPMS parts kit due to tight pin holes on DLASK lowers and the I should use Armalite parts like Dlask does, my DPMS kit assembled onto this lower like Lego. Not a single issue with fit. The only problem I encountered is that one of thedetent pins was improperly heat treated and immediately had the tip shear off when I first worked the rear takedown pin. A call to Wolverine fixed that. Ironically I ended up with Armalite detent pins after all, but the rest (including roll pins) were DPMS. The roll pins went in fine. I used the "vice grip method" as outlined on AR15.com simply because I wanted to see if it would work. It worked great, by the way. I have roll punch pins, but I wanted to test this thing out and the myth that the DLASK lowers don't take normal roll pins well. I consider that myth now debunked. Roll pin holes are DEFINITELY in spec, at least on these newer engraved lowers.

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The RRA buttstock went on without incident, though I might re-install it this week and use blue loctite. Probably doesn't need it, but I've seen too many butts come loose at matches causing the takedown detent spring to launch - effectively ending the shooter's day :(

One complaint I do have is that the DPMS safety selector seems to be machined off about 2 degrees and sits canted in the lower. I pulled a Colt selector from another gun and checked - it fitsstraight - so it's the DPMS part. The selector still functions 100%, but it's definitely machined off a few degrees. No matter, I'm likely going to replace it with an ambi selector anyhow in the near future.

Went with the Matech BUIS described above. A rather interesting design used by some US military units. Some guys love them, other's not so much. So far I like it and I like the elevation adjustment features and it seems very solid.

Another problem I encountered was with the brand new Armalite complete upper (1/9 chrome lined) I got from Valley Guns. The A2 flash hider was spun on with just a little loc-tite and NO WASHER! I called VGS to ask for a replacement and they refused to send it to me. Oh well, lots of other dealers to use in the future who understand customer service. Wolverine sent me one right away for a moderate fee. Stupid thing is this upper most certainly came from Wolverine before VGS got it in inventory to sell and it's likely the washer was omitted at the Armalite factory. Typical I got stuck paying for it :( At least everything snugs nicely on the lower with even less shake than in the Colts I've owned. Nice.

Here she is all finished (with the exception that I'm replacing this aimpoint mount with the new Promag GG&G style cantilever for a better co-witness).

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All in all, I have to say that everything I was told about the DLASK lowers with respect to quality control problems, non-milspec machining and fit, and parts sensitivity turned out to be 100% FALSE. This lower went together with as few problems as I've ever seen any lower have during assembly. Dlask is selling these newer engraved (way better looking than the old white lettered ones IMHO) lowers for $250 plus tax and shipping. That's only about $20 or so more than most imported American made lowers. Frankly, from now on I will have no qualms recommending to friends to buy the DLASK unit and support a Canadian manufacturer.

If anyone has any questions or comments, I'd be happy to post more info.
 
Claven2 said:
All in all, I have to say that everything I was told about the DLASK lowers with respect to quality control problems, non-milspec machining and fit, and parts sensitivity turned out to be 100% FALSE.

No, all of the above was TRUE..perhaps not all on one lower, but many people who bought Dlask lowers over the last couple of years have had issues of one kind or another. Dlask is just applying a bit more Quality Control to his product, which you've benefited from with a decent lower..and that's a good thing. ;)
You made me go look a the front of the magwell on my Dlask lower...the forging line has been ground off, but much more carefully and tidier than yours. Personally, I prefer the 'look' of the white-lettered lower. But that's what makes a horse race. :D
I swapped out my DPMS LPK for an Armalite LPK...not because of fit, but because the Armalite parts are darker and match the Dlask lower better.

Your rifle looks GREAT :cool: ...let us know how it shoots!
 
Yeah, but were they true of the newer lowers, or only the older white-lettered lowers?

As for the DPMS color mismatch - that's no biggie. Less obvious in person anyhow, the flash makes them look more "off".

I am rather disappointed in the machining on the front of the magwell, but in fairness I've seen worse on DPMS and Stag lowers from time to time and it's too much of a PITA to go through a return process! It'll work just fine as-is.

Truth be told, I'm more miffed about the flash hider washer than anything else... grr... poor customer service SUCKS.
 
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