New Vanguard Won't Shoot Worth a Damn?

Ended up returning the rail and whatnot in exchange for some wheeler tools; levels, torque wrench... even got a punch set and trigger pull gauge for the heck of it. I don't believe i need to worry about lapping at this point with the setup i have?
 
Like dog legs post about a counter guy using a M700 base.

I have a 300wm, pencil barrel. By a third shot fired quickly it can be 3-4" high.

Going to the range is a favorite thing to do. I'm pumped, too pumped. Seems silly, but if you know your going, avoid caffeine for minimum two days. Another thing I do is take a accurate 22....so take a shot of centerfire, shoot a magazine of 22lr. Slows down my shooting, my desire is 3-5min between shots. One group, let it sit....shoot a different centerfire. In hunting the only shot that counts is the first one, cold bore. Slow yourself down, shoot as cold a barrel as possible.

Your trying to shoot well ....in my case in spite of myself. Eliminate the Indian, dial in the arrow.
 
Doesn't Weatherby have a 1moa or better 3 shot group guarantee?
A few years ago Weatherby US issued me a refund cheque for a Vanguard 2 that didn't meet said guarantee and their Canadian repair shop didn't look at it for 8 months.
 
I have the same rifle in 6.5 and it is a tack driver. Like many others have said, I noticed that the tolerance between the stock and the barrel is very small and likely most coming from the factory they are probably in contact.
Other thing being what scope are you using? I have seen rifles come straight from cabelas with a scope where the scope was broken basically out of the box. I would change glass first and then go from there.
 
I got some sets of wheeler tools (levels, torque wrench kit, punches, trigger pull gauge) and my vanguard-specific rail. Mounted everything to spec, levelled my scope, and even swapped out the internal box mag for a magwell and lowered the trigger pull weight from 4lbs to 2.5lbs. Going to test it out this weekend at the range.

***Note: the scope mounting screws were way less than what was recommended when removing. The scope rings weren't even pushed forward in the rail slots.
 
Fussy rifles are a pain. You can usually get them going with bedding, trigger jobs, curing mounting issues, eliminating bad scopes,extensive load development and culminate with action trueing, before picking a suitable replacement barrel from your stock of replacement from your stash and calling in overnight gunsmithing favours. An enthusiast might have half of that done on the way home, and the rest on the weekend. You can also put a supercharger on your lawnmower and if thats entertaining to you might even be worth while.

There’s another option. If a production rifle maker wants to have an accurarcy guarantee, why not use it? This #### is supposed to work.


Agreed! I went through the same thing with a Sauer 100 in 7mm Rem. mag. I have the same rifle in another calibre and it’s very accurate. Sauer offers a 1 moa or less accuracy guarantee. The 7mm couldn’t shoot a 1 moa group to save its life. Tried 5 different bullet weights, all shot the same, poorly. They offered me a replacement rifle after verifying that it did indeed shoot poorly. I have not received the replacement yet so not sure how that one will shoot.

If after trying all the options of scopes , mounts, action screws, different bullet weights etc. I would take Weatherby up on their accuracy guarantee. Don’t even bother talking to Cabelas about it, once a gun leaves their store and it has a problem, it is now YOUR problem and they will do nothing for you and you have to deal with the warranty Center/distributor yourself.
 
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