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Ok, heres the deal I have been shooting since I was a little kid with my dad but just recently got around to actually buying my first rifle.
I am not looking to break the bank as I am kinda poor but was wondering if I should go with one of the newer model guns like the Marlin xl7 or the Charles Daly Mauser OR if I should go with an older model Husqvarna 1600 off of Tradeexcanada?
I have decided whatever I get will be a 30-06 as I want a gun that I can use for a variaty of game, and am comfortable shooting that caliber.
Sooo the big question is new vs old?
Also any other suggestions/ideas would be great.
Thanks.
 
i would prefer an older quality rifle than a new cheapy. an older rem or win may have some wear but may well out shoot newer rifles. or if you don't mind ugly look at savage as there usually good shooters.
 
chappy said:
i would prefer an older quality rifle than a new cheapy. an older rem or win may have some wear but may well out shoot newer rifles. or if you don't mind ugly look at savage as there usually good shooters.
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They may not be the cutest girl on the block but it's hard to beat the bang for the buck. I would classify a Savage as 'inexpensive', rather than 'cheap'. After seeing how well the pair in 22-250 my Daughter and Son In Law bought shoot, I picked up one very similar in 25-06 and I wasn't disappointed. Pardon the homemade target.

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Pardon, Johnn?
Is that the handle of the moose?
This is a good post because just a few hours ago we wandered up into the hills above
this home here and fired off a few rounds of my daughters boyfriend. It's a new Savage Model 111. A few grades up from the Stevens 200. Same safety, bolt looks identical, push feed style. This one comes with the dettachable mag. Flimsy fore stock. The mag
has some weight to it and as well as the bolt. All fit together, it feels somewhat comfortable. The butt has a decently soft pad on it, not similar to the 200 hockey puck. Fitted with this package was some 3x9x40 Bushnell that showed some promising. So bore sighted I did before we headed out. Did some screw checking and an overall lookylo. Set up a target at 25 yards or so and within a few rounds he had it dialed in a center and a bit up.
Off to a hundred and he was high to the right. Few more clicks, couple more rounds and he hit about 3/4" high on center. The wind picked up and a bit of snow fell. So to lighten the spirits up, I unscabbard my old 69A post war that I fitted with an age proper scope. Had a bunch of fun with this. Junior did a good job of blasting the bullseye with a few strays. The young feller had a go with it and did just as well. I would recommmend these fine old jewels to anyone wishing for a great shooter.
Okay, back to the Savage. The sun peeked for a bit and the wind decided to take a break.
A couple more shots on his 30-06 and then I heard a uh-ohhh.
His scope crapped out on him. The reticle decided to let loose and turn in the scope. So about a dozen rounds fired and this package deal scope gave up the ghost. Not good
performance and I'm really glad it let loose now. Warranty I hope for his sake and hopefully the dealer will offer some kind of deal on a new one for him. I am almost certain that this rifle fitted with good glass will do sub moa or close to it.
*Forgot to mention, this Savage Model 111 is without the Accutrigger.*
My opinion is the Savage rifle is good bang for the buck, if this is what you're after.
Myself, I prefer old school used for the same kerch$ng.
 
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I have a Marlin XS7 and can tell you that they are fantastic rifles. Accurate like the cheap savages, but they come with a nicer stock, nicer recoil pad, nicer trigger, and did I mention they're accurate? First time taking mine to the range and I was shooting 1/2MOA (handloads, off a rest obviously). Its accurate, reliable, feel good and all that jazz.


All that being said, my favourite rifle is a beat up old Marlin 336 in 30-30 from the mid 70's. Its ugly, the trigger is....OK, it has some slight feeding issues, and it's lucky to shoot 2MOA. But it feels so...right in my hands, incredibly comfortable.

Both are good in different ways, go and hold some of each.
 
kamlooky said:
Pardon, Johnn?
Is that the handle of the moose?
This is a good post because just a few hours ago we wandered up into the hills above
this home here and fired off a few rounds of my daughters boyfriend. It's a new Savage Model 111. A few grades up from the Stevens 200. Same safety, bolt looks identical, push feed style.
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Mine is a 112 BVSS that I picked up through Bashaw Sports in AB. My Daughter and Son In Law have basically the same in 22-250. With the bang for the buck out of the box accuracy and price, I thought I'd best get one and I wasn't disappointed. I did go for decent glass on it though. A Leupold VX III, 6.5-20 long range with varmint reticle.
 
Thanks for the opinions guys, I am leaning towards buying a newer gun (savage or marlin) just becouse I can actually feel the gun/try it out before buying it as opposed to buying one of the older huskys off of Tradeex and hoping I like it when it showes up. having never played with a husqvarna before does anybody have any experiances with them? I have heard good reviews about them but some actual experiances always helps.
Thanks
 
Youbetcha, if you buy a Savage get the stainless/laminate so the rain won't bother it, and make sure it has the Accustock and Accutrigger, and you'll have an excellent rifle that'll you'll be proud to own and you can hand down to your kids...and it'll be very accurate. I have a 1956 Husqvarna 30.06 that I had glass bedded into a Boyds' Classic laminate stock(order stock for large ring Mauser '98), and has a free floating barrel, and it shoots 1/2 MOA groups. You'll also want to get the trigger lightened and smoothed if you go for the Husky, but they're tack drivers and the steel used in them, though blued, is almost stainless in composition(Swedish steel) and resists corrosion. I love my Husky!
 
lofl, I love that every post starts off saying that the new guns are very good, then ends with "oh but the old ones are awesome also!" Not helping the decision making process much here guys! jk, keep em coming.
 
I have a 270 Husky feels good and is very accurate with handloads. Have also got a Savage stainless in 300 Saum .This also shoots very well with handloads. I replaced the Savage butt pad and put on a limbsaver pad as the on the Savage was too hard. Both are topped with Leupold scopes.They both do the job for what they are intended for. Buy what ever feels good to you. So go to a sport shop and handle some of the goods.
 
Buy the HVA, ive bought many, best steel and feel in my opinion, sick shooters. In 5 years time youll get what u paid for it or more, i dont know if youd get that for the savage or the newer models ur looking at. if ur not happy with what you get from tradeex just send it back no problem for 30 days. whatever you choose i hope you get what you want! good luck
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youbetcha said:
lofl, I love that every post starts off saying that the new guns are very good, then ends with "oh but the old ones are awesome also!" Not helping the decision making process much here guys! jk, keep em coming.
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I'm guilty of it, but hay, newbie starting out and asking for an honest opinion.
I bought my daughter a new Stevens 200 in 308 win. Would I do it again.
NO. I'd give her one of my old faithfuls. She proved her worth on this el cheepo.
Handled it with care and shot her first buck with it.
I would hate to recommend an old school rifle to a newbie to have it turn out
to be shot out or with some hidden bubba.
These cheap rifles may shoot great, but try and get a half dozen solid rounds out of them. This is my biggest #####. Barrel warms up and bullets stray.
This could very well be why us sort of Fuddz like old school. One foot in front of the other all day long.
Just my opinion.:cool:
Looky.
 
Thanks alot guys, im still debating back and forth but whatever I get I will post a pic of.
thanks for the help, you folks rock.
 
A quality used rifle in general and a Husky 1600 in particular is a good bet. The quality is high while the cost is low allowing room for the addition of some refinements down the road if you choose.

My grandson shooting my wife's 1600 Husky in .30/06. Refinements include a short LOP, Decelerator recoil pad, Ruger barrel band front sight with XS post, XS ghost ring rear sight, finished in GunKote, Galco Safari Ching Sling.
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youbetcha said:
Thanks for the opinions guys, I am leaning towards buying a newer gun (savage or marlin) just becouse I can actually feel the gun/try it out before buying it as opposed to buying one of the older huskys off of Tradeex and hoping I like it when it showes up. having never played with a husqvarna before does anybody have any experiances with them? I have heard good reviews about them but some actual experiances always helps.
Thanks
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If you want anew gun, then get the Marlin. There will be lots of time to buy an old gun in the future, or more new guns, or whatever you like...
 
If you are already leaning towards a "new" gun then go for it. There's certainly nothing wrong with the Savages or Marlin bolt rifles. You likely won't have trouble re-selling either if you change your mind and decide to go "old school" down the road.

I personally like the older Husqvarna rifles but I know I could make a Savage +/or Marlin bolt work for me, too.

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NAA.
 
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