newbie norc patent question

adrian118

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So I was looking for a np29 and I came across np22 which is the sig clone. I just got to thinking, sig prob has a patent on that design so how can norinco make clones for it?

I feel like theres a really simple answer im missing.
 
A patent is only valid for so many years then the patent expires... Like ######, they had a patent on it, now there are no name copies... Or Optima spiral cell 'dry cell' batteries... But it's still a cheap copy, I own an NP22, it's no Sig for quality but it looks and feels like one until you pull the trigger :)
 
IMO, the Chinese government banned the following words from the chinese vocabulary: Patent, trademark, ®, etc.

Why would SIG allow copy of it's flagship pistol?
 
There is a big problem with counterfeit and gray market goods coming from China and other developing countries. When a company goes to China (for instance) to subcontract for computer carrying bags (for example), they have to give their local plant everything needed for the contract. Drawings, materials specifications, production jigs and process steps, etc. The first company wants to get their product to market first, and probably sets short timelines. What plant operator wants his workers very busy for a short time? Once the contract has been fulfilled, what actual controls are there on the subcontractor from running off another batch with another label? Or from selling the production trade secrets to the guy across town? When the product becomes a commodity, the pressure to cut corners are often irresistable. And then we see stories on the news of shipping containers full of purses, shoes, jeans, perfume, electronics, prescription drugs, etc being seized by the feds.
 
That Armani shirt is really worth the 200 dollar price tag isn't it, it'll make me look cooler than the 5 $ copy that looks just the same.

I wouldn't purchase either, and your comparison is hardly relevant. Inflated prices on a textile is a little different than poor quality unlicensed copies of a patented firearm.

TDC
 
I have the 226 and the Norc clone. The Norc needed a trigger job. now it shoots as well as the real deal. With proper grips it looks pretty good too, but not as well finished.

I shoot the Norc all the time. the sig stays in the vault. The Norc, for me, has been better value.
 
The Patents are expired on the Sig, just like the colt 1873,1911 the CZ 75 and a pretty massive list of other firearms and products.

Its one thing to make a fake Armani T-shirt and put the label Armani on it and a totally different thing to make a pistol that looks and operates in pretty much the same fashion as another but does not bear the patent creators label on it anywhere. The norinco's don't claim to be Sig's or Colts, or Cz's or Browning's. Those names are trademarked but the patents are no longer protected.
 
The Patents are expired on the Sig, just like the colt 1873,1911 the CZ 75 and a pretty massive list of other firearms and products.

Its one thing to make a fake Armani T-shirt and put the label Armani on it and a totally different thing to make a pistol that looks and operates in pretty much the same fashion as another but does not bear the patent creators label on it anywhere. The norinco's don't claim to be Sig's or Colts, or Cz's or Browning's. Those names are trademarked but the patents are no longer protected.

I might be wrong, but I don't think CZ75 even have a patent to begin with.
 
I wouldn't purchase either, and your comparison is hardly relevant. Inflated prices on a textile is a little different than poor quality unlicensed copies of a patented firearm.

TDC

Read post #12 and post #13 to which I replied. I never made a comparison between a t-shirt and a gun, yet the value you get for the money is comparable in both cases.
You could praise the stitching and thread quality on the Armani and the finish on the Sig yet the knock-off t-shirt will cover your back and the Nork will go bang for a fraction of the cost, but you're welcome to spend your money as you see fit of course.
 
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