Newbie question re P14

Notapostie

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Hi folks
I've only been shooting a few years, mostly pistol and 22s, some shotgun. My lack of knowledge is astounding. I recently acquired a P14 that's been bubba'd, but the barrel wasn't cut down. Now it looks like me in short pants - just not right. Wondering if I can use stocks from other Enfield models to give this firearm back its dignity, or if P14 is the only fit. Thanks for any advice.
Ken
 
Some people will install a P14 into a full length M1917 reproduction stock - aka as P17. The fit around the trigger guard front end is not the same, between P14 and P17 - but many do not notice that. At that point, hand guards and bands are close to identical, except for markings. Boyds sells (or used to sell) reproduction stocks for M1917 - at least they used to also sell hand guards and Numrich sold bands as well - some were reproduction, some were "new old stock" and some were used. Most people could not show you the difference between those parts for P14 or P17. You will also want to look for sling swivels and stacking swivel and the very unique screw that those used.
 
You have several choices, Prestigious which are Canadian made and Numrich out of the U.S.
I purchased the Italian reproductions from Numrich.
They were almost a drop in fit, just needed a little relieving around the bolt arm and were much cheaper.
They come with all the metal pieces installed where the Prestigious don't.
The only downfall is that they come pre-finished, very nice but not period correct.(easily corrected)
Most of the other parts you will need are fairly easy to come by, Numrich, Marstar and eBay vendors unless you need volley sight parts.
Those are hard to come by and very pricey.
There were also some vendors on our EE selling parts.
Good Luck!
 
I've been looking for a reproduction for my p14 for a while I really would like to get out of the short pants as you said, and I need a total of 5 parts for it, I know the stock and front ears lol, the rest is slipping my mind
 
Hey guys, the parts are out there, In my late 60's pre-dementia mind it keeps me sharp chasing down parts.
You will love what you have achieved even if the purists tell you are wrong.
It is your time and your money and do what makes you happy.
I own an all original ERA P14 with the "Fat Boy Stock" complete with volley sights, all the dings and dents and all the documentation when the owner shot in the Bisley competitions.
I also purchased another ERA that had been "Bubba'd".
It was all #'s matching.
This is the one I purchased a reproduction stock for from Numrich.
I don't regret my decision, it is beautiful .
 
Bill Johnson said:
You have several choices, Prestigious which are Canadian made and Numrich out of the U.S.
I purchased the Italian reproductions from Numrich.
They were almost a drop in fit, just needed a little relieving around the bolt arm and were much cheaper.
They come with all the metal pieces installed where the Prestigious don't.
The only downfall is that they come pre-finished, very nice but not period correct.(easily corrected)
Most of the other parts you will need are fairly easy to come by, Numrich, Marstar and eBay vendors unless you need volley sight parts.
Those are hard to come by and very pricey.
There were also some vendors on our EE selling parts.
Good Luck!
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I hate to disagree but was not what I received - no butt plate, no small screw, no large screw, no rear sling swivel base, no rear swivel base screws, no threaded screw between trigger mortice and magazine mortice and no pin to retain the band that holds the hand guards. Holes were drilled, except for the threaded pin ahead of trigger, but was no metal bits included - was just wood stuff. Made in Italy, purchased from Numrich.
 
Hello Mr. Potashminer,
You knew exactly what I said and what I
meant, but chose to attempt to belittle me as a relativley new member!
You continually portray yourself as a " Lee Enfield " expert. That you are not, I've seen your rifles and they are a joke.
I own over 15 Lee Enfields in many configurations.
 
Bill Johnson said:
Hello Mr. Potashminer,
You knew exactly what I said and what I
meant, but chose to attempt to belittle me as a relativley new member!
You continually portray yourself as a " Lee Enfield " expert. That you are not, I've seen your rifles and they are a joke.
I own over 15 Lee Enfields in many configurations.
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Is curious as not many would mention P14 or M1917 as a "Lee Enfield" - is not the same rifle, at all - and you have never seen any of mine - no clue how you could evaluate them as a "joke". I do understand some of the intricacies of the Lee Enfields prior to No.1, and the No. 4, and No. 5 - but I get lost quickly in them - but I do have numerous P14 and M1917 that I am trying to "resurrect" - as per books by Stratton, Skennerton , Ferris and others. Maybe they are all wrong. Woe is me ...
 
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Bill Johnson said:
Hello Mr. Potashminer,
You knew exactly what I said and what I
meant, but chose to attempt to belittle me as a relativley new member!
You continually portray yourself as a " Lee Enfield " expert. That you are not, I've seen your rifles and they are a joke.
I own over 15 Lee Enfields in many configurations.
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I don’t see any insult here. And what does owning over 15 Lee Enfields have to do with the p-14 and p-17 rifles. Totally different rifles. What I do see is you insulting Potashminer because he didn’t agree with you on what came with a stock. Disagreements happen he all the time. Some people just take it way too serious and get butt hurt. Have a good day rookie.
 
Notapostie, try to ignore the bickering you see above the milsurp community is quite a nice one and as you can see we can be very passionate about our old rifles. Enfields seem to pluck a particular nerve. As far as gathering parts and a stock prestigious wood stocks and numrich are both available if you feel patient then the EE has stuff come up from time to time and Ross rifle restorations is an option also he is Canadian and does very good work my brother had a long Lee restocked there.
 
Notapostie said:
Yikes. Thanks for the info, folks, but maybe this isn't the community for me.
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Never mind the bollocks, some people are just grumpy.

You're going to have issues finding what you need via Numrich in the US. Great service, but my packages get held up by CBSA for months in the current times. They'd be a good source for metal bits, though.

As mentioned, try Prestigious for wood, and do a quick Google/Facebook search for other makers, I know of at least one more but the name escapes me.

One thing to keep in mind: slug the bore to make sure it's worth restoring, as they vary from .311's to .315+ with war time production, plus wear. You don't want to go spending the cash on a rifle that won't shoot.

Best of luck, and post pics when it's all said and done.
 
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