Newbie Questions

JayGenX

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I am newly licensed and started my collection, what was handed down to me was the following

- Mossberg 12G Bolt (missing a trigger guard screw, need to find a replacement still)

- 303 Lee Enfield

- Lever Action 44 Magnum - needs fixing, the stock has a small section missing. need to find a place to repair

- Lever Marlin 336RC 30-30 1954 - 30-30 Winchester

I picked up new - Yet to enjoy

- Ruger PC Carbine - 9MM Glock converted

- Ruger 31159 10/22 - Semi 22LR 18.5”bbl Viridian EON 3-9x40 Scope

When reading on another site about used, what is the process of purchasing from someone? Do they keep a copy of your lic? is there best places to looked for used deals? Is new better to focus on?
 
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The used vs. new issue is something you have to decide on yourself. A lot of people prefer to only buy new in order to have a warranty. Others buy used, but carefully. In 45 years I am around 2% new gun purchases, 98% used.
No, the seller does not have to keep a copy of your license. In fact you do not even need to send him a pic of it, he just has to see it so that means if it not a face-toface deal you could do facetime or some other video conference to show your creds. If do you need to email your PAL and other supporting ID, I would recommend you deface it first for instance using microsoft paint (think googly eyes and bushy moustache) then save it as a .jpeg before sending it off. This is to protect yourself from identity theft. Don't take advice strictly from a forum, here's the deal: https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/firearms/buying-and-selling-transferring-firearms
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Thank you! Appreciate you taking the time to answer.

Most have been new purchases, did one online since it was a Restricted waiting for the CFO email. Been about 2 weeks, never thought that would feel so painfully long LOL
 
I also have this same question. Luckily you posted it.
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Is perhaps more to it these days - in past month or so I have bought two or three used rifles on-line. Sellers wanted to follow "the rules" and verify my PAL - so send to them some info from the card - they never saw my card - and then they did on-line verification at CFP - one was done on a Saturday - so was no phone calls - they get a reference number and I get that same reference number - apparently that "verification" is good between that Seller and that Buyer for 90 days (?) or so. When they were happy with the confirmation, and had my mailing address, I sent EMT payment and they sent the firearm and sent me the Canada Post tracking number. On CFP system, shows that my PAL has been verified 5 or 6 times since that "verification" thing came into effect.

For some people, even "mailing address" is confusing - in most parts of Canada, except cities - your mailing address is probably different than where you live - usually a Post Office box number or a Rural Route, or similar - for sure in Manitoba, our Driver licence shows where we live - land location - NOT the mailing address. So asking for Driver Licence to confirm mailing address, makes no sense for most of the country. And CFP is NOT supposed to give out the mailing address for that PAL card.

Yes, is about 28 ways that can go South, and I never did get to see or handle the used firearm until it arrived here - is really no different than buying something at an on-line auction - so about everything is in questions that I asked and what the seller replied. So, is obvious if buyer or seller (or both) does not know much about the gun, then that is what changed hands. Lack of knowledge, lack of certainty - ought to go towards the price paid, but does not always work out that way.

I just renewed my card with CFP - still annoys me to have to pay $86 for that renewal and then STILL have to go through that verification stuff to be able to buy a rifle. I am old enough to remember that back in the day, was simply NO paperwork involved - like buying a hammer at a hardware store - we would walk in, pick what we wanted, pay and walk out with it - no gov't papers, no special cards, no verification, at all. Apparently we are all much "safer" now - but "heaven help us all" if that hammer buyer also picked up some nails at the same time!!!.

For some years - 1970's, 1980's (?) small town Saskatchewan stores had a "book" that you filled in particulars of the rifle that you bought there. At least three different that I remember - those stores no longer exist - I no longer own those guns - no clue what ever became of those "books". Was my practice to sell guns only to people that showed me their PAL card - was no obligation on my part to record or to report that I sold those guns - no clue if the Buyer may have subsequently kept it or sold it.

I also recall buying a rifle from SIR Mail Order in early days of FAC card - would mail the hand filed out order form from their catalogue, a Canada Post money order and my actual FAC card to them - a week or so later the rifle would show up at our Post Office - with that FAC card in the box with the rifle. I do not remember if the FAC card had my picture on it - might have been when PAL came in - I do recall having to go into city to get passport type pictures done - last renewal was simply a "selfie" taken with my iPhone.
 
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Even "mailing address" is perplexing - in most parts of Canada, except cities, your mailing address is likely to be different than where you live - usually a Post Office box number or a Rural Route, or something similar - in Manitoba, our driver's license shows where we live - land location - NOT the mailing address. As a result, asking for a driver's license to validate mailing address makes no sense for the majority of the country. And CFP is not supposed to provide the PAL card's mailing address.
 
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