Newbie to Shotguns - Russian MC 21-12MR Autoloader or TOZ 34 O/U? For skeet and birds

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Hi....


New to shotguns (never even fired one) but not new to guns. I own a few .22 rifles, and a .22 pistol. But I want to try something new (trap and skeet look like a lot of fun and bird hunting) without breaking the bank. I only have maybe $300 to spend on a shotgun. Been looking at three:

Norinco 870 pumps at Marstar for around $250

And two Russians at Armrus:

MC 21 - 12 MR Autoloader for $300

TOZ Over / Under for $250

I love to shoot, and have built my 10/22 to the point where its ridiculous, so I thought I'd get in to 12 gauge. Does anyone own these rifles? How are they? Please help - I want to buy one before Armrus raises their prices on the Auto and the over / unders

Thanks.

Mike
 
wow...thanks for pointing those out....now I have a choice, do I want one, or both?? Great prices (on the russians). Re the norinco 870...the only version I know that is 100% compatible with remmy parts is the 14". Could be wrong, but that's what I read somewhere on this board.
 
Bought my first shotgun! TOZ 34 ER

Hey everyone!

Well, I bought my first shot gun - and its a TOZ 34 ER

Reasoning:

I was going to go with an autoloader, but with the recoil on a 12 gauge, and no real need for 'high capacity' I decided to go with the simple design of an over-under.

As a beginner, I felt that an over/under would be a good choice for both hunting and skeet.

Also, everyone on the TOZ 34 forum recommended the gun highly for accuracy and build quality - I suspect an autoloader would simply be more finicky. Over / unders are normally alot more money than this - really feel like this Russian is a steal of a deal.

Part of this is also preference - as I kept looking at different designs, the classic look of the TOZ kept me coming back to it (it will also be a nice contrast to my 'fierce' little 10/22 with a foregrip, synthetic choate dragunov stock, and AR-15 style muzzlebrake).

This gun has been made for over 50 years - when this happens you know you have a stable design on your hands. Wish me luck - I've never even shot a shotgun before, but the idea of getting into some hunting and sport shooting is really appealing.
 
What's the diff between the TOZ 34 ER and the R model?

Are the chokes fixed or do they come with scew-in tubes?

Three-inch or 2 3/4?

At $250 I'm interested in learning more.

I went sporting clay shooting once this year and loved it. An over under would be great for that!
 
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