NL'er moving to NB, do I need to take a new Hunter's safety course/

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I was reading the NB site, and it seems to indicate the requirement is the "Atlantic Provinces Firearms Safety / Hunter Education Course" Which I have.

http://www2.gnb.ca/content/gnb/en/services/services_renderer.5215.html

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Also, am I allowed to keep my shotgun in my car in NB or no? I've heard the NB laws are sort of messed up on this subject. I seem to remember someone getting arrested for driving with a gun in his truck and charged with poaching.
I looked at the Freddie by laws and found only one regarding spring guns and air rifles. It looks as though, thankfully, Freddie doesn't have St. John's stupid law whereby we must hide our guns from plain sight and have them cased before leaving the house at all times.
 
I'm pretty sure that you are good to go Greg.

If you are moving to the Saint John area contact myself or "Abman" here if you are looking to join a gun club.;):D
 
Billy The Kid said:
I'm pretty sure that you are good to go Greg.

If you are moving to the Saint John area contact myself or "Abman" here if you are looking to join a gun club.;):D
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Thanks!

Just looking at the provincial laws for things I should keep in mind. Do you locals know much about this:
41 Every person commits an offence who, not being the holder of a proper licence and not being a conservation officer exercising his authority under this Act, takes, carries or has in his possession in or upon a resort of wildlife a firearm during the open season for hunting.
2004, c.12, s.32.
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And
42(1)Every person commits an offence who, not being authorized under subsection (2), (3), (3.1) or (4) and not being a conservation officer in the exercise of his authority under this Act,
(a)without a permit issued under subsection 86(1) takes, carries or has in his possession in or upon a resort of wildlife a firearm during the closed season for hunting;
(b)transports or has in his possession a firearm in a resort of wildlife during the night; or
(c)transports or has in his possession a firearm in a resort of wildlife on a weekly day of rest.
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Basically everything from 41 to 42(4), makes me having a gun in my car a huge no no, right? I would just like my SG in the car simply to have it there.

What about target shooting on crown land? These laws deal strictly with simple possession.

Argh, this is bs.
 
You are correct on storage in a vehicle being a no go here. As for shooting on crown land, you either have to get a one time sighting in permit from the DNR each and every time you go out, or you have to have a valid hunting licence. And if you go the hunting licence route, you have to follow the calibre restrictions (no rifles larger than .23 cal, or shot in a shotgun larger than BB size outside of deer, moose, or bear seasons). And on top of that, there's no Sunday hunting except for during deer season, so that's another limiting factor.

These regulations are pure BS, but until we get them changed, there's not a lot we can do.
 
Well, once I'm an official resident, I'll begin writing letters. I'll be attending UNB's education program starting late August. I think I might stay in NB as I've recently become infatuated with the idea of rural life. Dad's from Miramichi and Mom's from Freddie anyway so...

Any word on an attempt to lobby a change in the caliber restrictions and to turf the no guns in the car regs?
 
Nothing has really happened yet. I and a few others have written some letters, but there's really been no real organized push for the changes yet that I know of. The Provincial Wildlife Act really needs to be scrapped and re-written to fix these issues. Problem is too many people are indifferent to it, so the few of us who are complaining are falling on deaf ears.
 
Considering moving back there myself. I have a couple questions. I do a lot of shooting at the range when it's not hunting season. What regulations apply to transporting several rifles to the range outside of hunting season.

Regarding transport of rifles at night or on a day of 'rest', how do you get your rifles to and from your hunting area if you leave before daylight or stay in the field until dark then drive home assuming that you will be driving through a 'resort of game' to get there and back. If you stay in a tree stand until legal shooting time is up do you risk being charged walking back to your vehicle with your gun in the dark.

Living in BC and Alberta for the last 30 some years and being able to take guns with me wherever I go at all times of the day or night hunting season or not this will be very hard to get used to. Maybe if enough of us former maritimers who retire back to our home provinces put enough pressure on the gov't maybe these archaic laws can be changed?
 
Oscar Makonka said:
What regulations apply to transporting several rifles to the range outside of hunting season.


Regarding transport of rifles at night or on a day of 'rest', how do you get your rifles to and from your hunting area if you leave before daylight or stay in the field until dark then drive home assuming that you will be driving through a 'resort of game' to get there and back. If you stay in a tree stand until legal shooting time is up do you risk being charged walking back to your vehicle with your gun in the dark.
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1)As long as you are a gun club member and the guns are cased you are good to go.

2)As long as they are cased, you're good to go.
 
According to a letter I received from the Minister of Natural Resources, in regards to transporting firearms to and from the range, your club membership card is treated in a similar manner to an ATT would be.
Dear Mr. *****

Thank you for your recent e-mail correspondence expressing your concerns regarding the transportation of non-restricted firearms to and from shooting clubs.

In 2004, a memo was sent to all gun and archery clubs in New Brunswick outlining a procedure that would allow the members of "registered clubs" to transport non-restricted firearms to and from certified ranges without the need of a transportation permit from the Department of Natural Resources (DNR). The procedure outlined in the 2004 memo has been formally adopted by the Department and has been used for the past several years.

Each year a letter is sent from DNR to the executive of all gun and archery clubs in New Brunswick. The letter outlines the need for all gun and archery clubs to annually register with the DNR if non-restricted firearms are to be transported from a residence to a certified range. The executive of each club are to provide the following information: 1) a list of the current executive and 2) a sample of the club's current membership card. Gun clubs must also be affiliated with a certified shooting range.

Once a club registers with DNR, the members of that club can transport their non-restricted firearms to and from their club or to organized shooting events. If the club member is stopped by a Conservation Officer they must present their current club card and be en route to the range. The Conservation Officer can cross reference the membership with the DNR's registry. A club card does not allow a club member to travel with a non-restricted firearm throughout the province when they are not travelling to the range or to a shooting event.

Should you require any further information regarding the transportation of non-restricted firearms, please feel free to contact the Fish and Wildlife Branch (Tel: 506-453-2440)

Sincerely,

Bruce Northrup
Minister

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Nice, huh?:rolleyes:
 
Thanks for the info. What do you do when you want to take a gun to trade off at a gunshow, dealer, gunsmith or just take it to a friends house to look at it? Say I went to McAdam and bought a rifle on impulse can I just take it home or do I have to get permits of some sort?
 
if you use common sense, you should never have any trouble. If you bought a .30-06, case it, put it in your trunk, drive straight home, and don't give anybody any reason to pull you over. I think any reasonable judge would throw your case out.

But, if you're caught driving slowly down a wooded road at night with a rifle in your truck, as I believe the defendant was in the case mentioned earlier on here, be prepared for a few questions and likely charges. You don't even need to have a gun in NB to be charged with hunting at night - all you need to do is accidentally flash the woods with your headlights.

As for carrying a gun in your car at all times - techically, if it's cased and you have a hunting license, be it a varmint license or deer or bear, as far as I can read the rules you are NOT NOT allowed to have a gun in your vehicle, as long as it's legal for the current season (no .30-30 in rabbit season, for example, you'd need a shotgun with appropriate ammo, a .22, or a .223). Follow? Someone here may correct me on this, but it's the way I read the laws.

NOW

If you use your trunk gun to put down a wounded animal in NB, you'll get into a pile of trouble. DNR doesn't like it. So, you gotta ask yourself if it's really worth it to carry one.
 
Man, suppose you need to open a can, and no one has a can opener? "Hey guys! I have my .223!" There ya go. I just saved the day! Can opened at 3000fps!

That's why I always want my gun in my car.
 
greg11 said:
Man, suppose you need to open a can, and no one has a can opener? "Hey guys! I have my .223!" There ya go. I just saved the day! Can opened at 3000fps!

That's why I always want my gun in my car.
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Nah.. I don't like shrapnel and beans.:D Didn't mean to say I take my guns everywhere but it is nice that it's legal here to do so when you want to go out and do some shooting. I'm not a trigger happy nitwit or poacher. Some times a person likes to get together with some friends and take a few guns out to do some shooting. We like to go out and set up some targets at various ranges figure out how many clicks for various distances and just general practice. Our range here only goes to 300 yds so to shoot any farther you go out on crown land or get permission from a farmer, find a safe place and shoot, maybe have a barbeque, fish, pick berries, tour around the countryside seeing where the roads go, whatever, just a nice day with a few hours shooting included rather than go directly to a specified spot and straight back during certain specified hours. I'm a very active shooter, shoot most weekends year round, and travel to some competitions now and then. The community I might move to in NB only has a 100 yd range, thats ok for sighting your rifle in for short range hunting but not a whole lot else. Thats why I'm interested in finding out what's allowed and what isn't.
 
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