no.4 forends
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Like mentioned above, Walnut was the standard, with maple and birch use periodically, most likely whatever could be brought in the fastest.
I believe after the war ended, Savage sent all No.4 parts up to Long Branch, including receivers, barrels, and stocks. So, it would not be uncommon to see a Savage marked stock on a Long branch.
As for marking, the Savage stocks would have the "square s" (which most people mistake for a "5").
I believe after the war ended, Savage sent all No.4 parts up to Long Branch, including receivers, barrels, and stocks. So, it would not be uncommon to see a Savage marked stock on a Long branch.
As for marking, the Savage stocks would have the "square s" (which most people mistake for a "5").
"...Savage sent all No.4 parts up to Long Branch..." When the contract ended. 1944, as I recall. All remaining rifles, parts and machinery got sent to Long Branch.
Some of the maple used is seriously nice wood too. Blond stocks are birch.
Some of the maple used is seriously nice wood too. Blond stocks are birch.
l/b forend
thx for the help. my 1945 l/b was going to be sporterized, i got it just in time .he sold the forend front handguard , front sight ears , and mag . the buttstock is walnut with Cw/a broadarrow inside ans b-32 below that. i picked up a new forend mk'd exactly as the buttstock but the color is a orange and appears to be beech. the rifle , metal parts and wood i have are aboutnew cond. any ideas.....................thx , Bob
thx for the help. my 1945 l/b was going to be sporterized, i got it just in time .he sold the forend front handguard , front sight ears , and mag . the buttstock is walnut with Cw/a broadarrow inside ans b-32 below that. i picked up a new forend mk'd exactly as the buttstock but the color is a orange and appears to be beech. the rifle , metal parts and wood i have are aboutnew cond. any ideas.....................thx , Bob
In truth, occasionally you will see Savage and Long Branch parts of all types on each other's rifles. They commonly sent parts back and forth to each other as soon as Savage started to produce. Both Savage and Long Branch sent all of the separate parts as spares to every nation in the war that used No4 rifles and they had to fit whichever model they had or be easily modified to do so.
It isn't uncommon to find parts mixed on any No4s really. Go onto the Milsurps Knowledge site and read the hundreds of posts there. Many battlefield pick ups, were obtained all through the wars and by different countries than issued them originally.
If repairs were needed, no one checked to see where it was made. They reached into a bin and grabbed the first part available that fit or put the rifle back into spec.
At the end of the war, when the rifles were repatriated, they didn't separate them by brand name either. They strapped them to pallets and shipped the appropriate quantities to whichever country they were going to.
That's the main reason there are so many mixmasters out there. It doesn't man they aren't correct either. It's just part of the history of a combat rifle. When they got back to their respective nations, they may have had mods made to bring them up to a certain standard and replace war manufacture expedient parts with spec parts but nothing else was changed, as long as the rifle was battle worthy.
Canada, had a nasty habit of not marking wood or metal bits during a refurb to show it had been done. The Brits were quite fussy about the whole thing.
Unless you are an expert at recognising wartime finishes, it is almost impossible to tell a refurbed rifle from factory fresh. That's why so many collectors are so suspicious of unissued Canadian and Savage No4 MkI* rifles.
It isn't uncommon to find parts mixed on any No4s really. Go onto the Milsurps Knowledge site and read the hundreds of posts there. Many battlefield pick ups, were obtained all through the wars and by different countries than issued them originally.
If repairs were needed, no one checked to see where it was made. They reached into a bin and grabbed the first part available that fit or put the rifle back into spec.
At the end of the war, when the rifles were repatriated, they didn't separate them by brand name either. They strapped them to pallets and shipped the appropriate quantities to whichever country they were going to.
That's the main reason there are so many mixmasters out there. It doesn't man they aren't correct either. It's just part of the history of a combat rifle. When they got back to their respective nations, they may have had mods made to bring them up to a certain standard and replace war manufacture expedient parts with spec parts but nothing else was changed, as long as the rifle was battle worthy.
Canada, had a nasty habit of not marking wood or metal bits during a refurb to show it had been done. The Brits were quite fussy about the whole thing.
Unless you are an expert at recognising wartime finishes, it is almost impossible to tell a refurbed rifle from factory fresh. That's why so many collectors are so suspicious of unissued Canadian and Savage No4 MkI* rifles.
