How do these 2 carbine compare....easy of handling..accuracy and recoil...i know the LE No.5 has a reputation with recoil..and not aided at all my its solid rubber butt pad...don't hear too much about the Soviet m44 carbine chambered in 7.62mm....any CGN's got both in there milsurp collection ?
NO.5 "Jungle Carbine vs USSR Mosin m44 carbine
- Thread starter x westie
- Start date
(((Echo)))
CGN frequent flyer
- Location
- Old Man Land, AB
Wuss
My M44 fits me like a glove, and I have fired 100's of rounds with nary a whimper. My JC cycles better (no 2x4 needed) and in my mind handles better for some obscure reason. I like them both. Can't judge the accuracy. While I can ring the 200 yd gong with my Mosin, my JC had the front sight replaced before I got her and was waaayyy too high. Just got the replacement and haven't installed it yet.
(E)
- Location
- Vancouver Island BC
I have had both and they are about the same in recoil. The JC's I have had were more accurate due to the type of sights. The Mosin sights are too big for the gun, but it's also a very capable round. Scoped Mosin's are deadly accurate and will take big game no problem.
I have tipped over a few moose with the 303 using big heavy bullets. I have some 216 grain .311 diameter Norma's waiting to go into my incoming JC. I will be using it as backup on my sons first hunt.....
Scoped Mosin's are deadly accurate and will take big game no problem.I have tipped over a few moose with the 303 using big heavy bullets. I have some 216 grain .311 diameter Norma's waiting to go into my incoming JC. I will be using it as backup on my sons first hunt.....
Of the two the M-44 mosin can kick a lot harder that the jungle carbine. This is because the mosin has a much stronger action and can be loaded to greater pressures. They can both kick as soft as you want them to kick, just load accordingly. I would say the mosin is by far the better rifle, it has a better action, it has a sturdy one piece stock, it has a fully floating barrel. And last but not least it is half the price.
I shot my #5 this weekend, around 20 rounds, and I have a bruise on my shoulder from it. It's no worse than my Marlin 1894 in .44mag (no recoil pad)that I used to have though. I had a #4 sporter with a recoil pad that I could shoot all day long with no discomfort.
BTW, regarding the post above, the #5 has a fully floating barrel.
BTW, regarding the post above, the #5 has a fully floating barrel.
The M44 is built to work under far worse conditions then the JC, and be operated by a more diverse army.
Personally I like the M44 Carbine better.
Besides which it comes with a handy fold out Bear defence bayonet.
Personally I like the M44 Carbine better.
Besides which it comes with a handy fold out Bear defence bayonet.
Last edited:
I no longer have a MK5 but I do have 2 Mosin M44's still. I despised the narrow hard rubber pad on my Mk5 and got rid of it years ago. One of my M44's is still packed in cosmoline and is brand new, never issued and stored away as a collector item, the other I sporterized for my short and handy beater deer rifle, turned the bolt handle down and trimmed all excess weight. It kicks like a mule using heavy ball now due to losing the extra weight, but when I load my own I use 120's and it is a joy to shoot. I find the Mosin MUCH more accurate than my MK5 and a few friends as well. As the above poster commented, the bolt is not as easy to operate but once you use a Mosin enough, it becomes second nature and is fast enough! I LOVE the factory trigger pull on my M44 too. Not sure if it is just a lucky one to be so excellent or not as these are the only Mosin Nagants I have ever owned. When I go for a days hard hunt in thick woods, this is always the gun I carry. I used to shoot it a lot at the range as well but rarely go target shooting anymore. Interesting thread. Love to hear everyones differing opinions on those two guns.
Allan
Allan
highlander
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Newfoundland
I had both and shot them both fairly extensively. For a couple of years, the #5 was my main moose hunting gun. I my opinion, I prefer the M-44. It has a more powerful round and a stronger action, and just seems to handle better for me, and from my own experience is more accurate; the #5 has a problem with loosing zero. Recoil is about the same. I eventually got rid of the #5, but I still have the M-44.
By the way, If you really want to impress your buddies, try firing the M-44 when it's almost dark. There's about a 3 foot length of flame comes out the barrel that will scare the crap out of them if they're not used to it.
By the way, If you really want to impress your buddies, try firing the M-44 when it's almost dark. There's about a 3 foot length of flame comes out the barrel that will scare the crap out of them if they're not used to it.
Cocked&Locked
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- S. Ontario
for handleing and ergonomics I'd take the No 5 hands down...but with the M-44 you can finish off your moose with the bayonet!
Greenhorse six
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
For some reason my No5 seems to kick harder during the summer then the fall or spring.....Oh,Never mind.
I never had mosin but two JC's that recently went through my hands were excellent shooters, I grouped 1.5-1.75"x100yds both with factory load and iron sights consistently. Report on JC is way better than, say, other Enfields in 303 probably due to flash hider like above mentioned. Recoil is just a matter of getting used to it, or maybe fitting some kind of slip-on recoil pad. I ended up owning one of those and happy like a clam.
