No 5 Shooters
- Thread starter Hawkeye
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- WMU247 near Edmonton
All the ones I've used were allright
I remember before the crash there was a post discussing this (one of several over time I think) and none of the No 5 owners on this board had run into the problem with theirs.
There are lots of theories about it.
Cheers
There are lots of theories about it.
Cheers
no i am not worried about the wandering zero i was told that they are known to be inaccurate because of uneven preasures on the barrel and because its been cut down about 5 inches from the No4. with the ammount of shooting that i'll be doin with mine when it arrives the possability of the wandering zero shouldn't efect me too much if its there at all. i wasn't able to find any posts with the new set up about the number 5 and i haven't been able to find a conclusive answer any where eltse. either way no matter what problems it might have they will be over shadowed by the fact that i ahve a new rifle to shoot and i am just happy when they go bang each and every time
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I haven't found mine to be any less accurate than my No.1 Mk III
When I put a scope on it, my No 5 will shoot 1 1/4" at 100 yards without complaint and I haven't gotten around to tailoring an accurate load yet.
Cheers
When I put a scope on it, my No 5 will shoot 1 1/4" at 100 yards without complaint and I haven't gotten around to tailoring an accurate load yet.
Cheers
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Most of the guys that can't shoot a No5 accurately have four problems, none with the rifle. 1) older eyes 
2) recoil shyness and huge muzzle blast 3) poor quality ammo 4) too much oil in the bedding area. The one that I shoot does tend to open up the groups after a couple of quick 5 - 10 rounds have been put through it and it starts to get hot. This will happen with almost any rifle though and can be expected. I've shot literally thousands of rounds through my main shooter (which was bought new in the wrap in 1970) without any problems with milspec or handloads. The quality of the milspec ammo as well as some of the commercial stuff, left a lot to be desired. One of the main reasons any enfield will be inaccurate, as well as any other rifle, is oil or grease in the bedding areas, keep it spotlessly clean and keep it dry. There isn't, to my knowledge, anyone here useing a No5 in real combat role under combat conditions. So there isn't any need to have everything swimming in protective oil while shooting. Under battlefied conditions excess oil may and only maybe be a realistic alternative dependant on conditions, as any lubricant collects dirt luke a sponge and that just will eventually cause a malfunction, usually when it's least able to be dealt with. By the way, I can still remember the old guys in the sixties that were perfectly happy with 4 inch groups (8+cm) from any rifle that wasn't a custom job. The bullet construction up until the last 5-10 years just wasn't good enough to produce the nice tight groups we've all come to expect now. Ahhh I can still rember the days when CIL used to supply 4 different bullet diameters for the 303 British (from .311 -.314) in commercially rolled as well as to handloaders. In those days they didn't have the Juenke gauge that manufacturers use to check jacket concentricity today. Damn there I go again running off at the keyboard, but all of this is pertinant to No5 accuracy problems. Sorry if you feel I've stolen your thread, just trying to fill in some gaps. bearhunter
2) recoil shyness and huge muzzle blast 3) poor quality ammo 4) too much oil in the bedding area. The one that I shoot does tend to open up the groups after a couple of quick 5 - 10 rounds have been put through it and it starts to get hot. This will happen with almost any rifle though and can be expected. I've shot literally thousands of rounds through my main shooter (which was bought new in the wrap in 1970) without any problems with milspec or handloads. The quality of the milspec ammo as well as some of the commercial stuff, left a lot to be desired. One of the main reasons any enfield will be inaccurate, as well as any other rifle, is oil or grease in the bedding areas, keep it spotlessly clean and keep it dry. There isn't, to my knowledge, anyone here useing a No5 in real combat role under combat conditions. So there isn't any need to have everything swimming in protective oil while shooting. Under battlefied conditions excess oil may and only maybe be a realistic alternative dependant on conditions, as any lubricant collects dirt luke a sponge and that just will eventually cause a malfunction, usually when it's least able to be dealt with. By the way, I can still remember the old guys in the sixties that were perfectly happy with 4 inch groups (8+cm) from any rifle that wasn't a custom job. The bullet construction up until the last 5-10 years just wasn't good enough to produce the nice tight groups we've all come to expect now. Ahhh I can still rember the days when CIL used to supply 4 different bullet diameters for the 303 British (from .311 -.314) in commercially rolled as well as to handloaders. In those days they didn't have the Juenke gauge that manufacturers use to check jacket concentricity today. Damn there I go again running off at the keyboard, but all of this is pertinant to No5 accuracy problems. Sorry if you feel I've stolen your thread, just trying to fill in some gaps. bearhunter
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I agree with Bearhunter, that the additional kick and blast cause people to flinch, causing some inaccuracy. I know as I had to overcome it when I got my first No5 30 years ago. The recoil pad does not absorb much recoil in my opinion, but rather directs the kick into a smaller area than other Lees, thusly increasing the felt recoil by concentrating it. All in all I like the rifle, handy in the bush. Try different bullet weights as this can improve accuracy in different rifles.
Cheers, Dave
I agree with Bearhunter, that the additional kick and blast cause people to flinch, causing some inaccuracy. I know as I had to overcome it when I got my first No5 30 years ago. The recoil pad does not absorb much recoil in my opinion, but rather directs the kick into a smaller area than other Lees, thusly increasing the felt recoil by concentrating it. All in all I like the rifle, handy in the bush. Try different bullet weights as this can improve accuracy in different rifles.
Cheers, Dave
I tend to agree with what has been stated so well by others. I was fortunate enough to get my #5 30+yrs ago when it was still packed in grease from the armory . I have found it to be very accurate over the years. Indeed it does kick a bit more than others, burps loudly and the rubber recoil pad is great for resting the butt on a hard surface but really ineffective for anything else . The only thing I have noticed is like most other rifles, the accuracy lessens as the weapon heats up. For a casual shooter, this is nothing, but if yur spending a day at the bench you will see some movement at it gets hot. No big deal...All in all, I would have to say it is one of my favorites and I wouldn't part with it..
Get a good one and you won't be disappointed.
Cheers
dB
. I have found it to be very accurate over the years. Indeed it does kick a bit more than others, burps loudly and the rubber recoil pad is great for resting the butt on a hard surface but really ineffective for anything else . The only thing I have noticed is like most other rifles, the accuracy lessens as the weapon heats up. For a casual shooter, this is nothing, but if yur spending a day at the bench you will see some movement at it gets hot. No big deal...All in all, I would have to say it is one of my favorites and I wouldn't part with it..Get a good one and you won't be disappointed.
Cheers
dB
