No more Kimber 22's
- Thread starter shimmer
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Try Bashaw Sports, they have some listed on their website.
skeetgunner
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A stock $1000+ rimfire rifle is a niche market... Too bad, they are a smoking hot looking rifle, a tad spendy though.
And the ones I shot were no better than a Savage Mrk II with accutrigger or CZ452 at half the price.
Donny Fenn1
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exactly what skeetgunner said...
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I am in the market for a decent .22 and was thinking of a Kimber. Gee, now what?
superd222
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"I am in the market for a decent .22 and was thinking of a Kimber. Gee, now what?"
> Don't worry, if you want to spend $1000+++ on a .22, Anschutz sells LOTS to suit almost every desire, niche, 'need'......want.....
> Don't worry, if you want to spend $1000+++ on a .22, Anschutz sells LOTS to suit almost every desire, niche, 'need'......want.....
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Ya right. Maybe the first one or two I bought.
I don't know about them being no better than a Savage.
I haven't shot mine yet, but in terms of build quality there is absolutely no comparison. My SVT .22 is built like a Winchester Model 70 centerfire or 52. It's beautiful.
I haven't shot it yet, as I'm saving up for the scope.
I did wait 8 months for this rifle so patience isn't an issue. During that wait the price of the rifle went up twice. The original price was honoured so no problems but still 8 months, geez. Guess I can't complain too much if they aren't even making them anymore.
Also it says you can can dry fire this rifle. So I did a couple of times. The trigger is very nice. The stock is also very nice for target work. All in all excellent craftsmanship.
When I get the Leupold EFR 6.5-20x on her I'll be running Federal target and Lapua Super club to check out the accuracy. My big concern is there is no way it can shoot as good as it looks
With my current bills, expect the range report in spring. Although I suspect the rifle will shoot better than the owner.
Some pictures I took shortly after receiving it. I would have had the scope by now, but.... I had to go on the internet and see that Panter DPMS LR-308 on sale
. So now I have 4 rifles to scope. No more firearms until scopes are bought.
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skeetgunner
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I don't know about them being no better than a Savage.
Fit and finish aside, I'd be hard pressed to believe that a Kimber shoots better than a MarkII-BV/BTVS or CZ452. Probaly as good as, but better? For fit and finish, I'm sure that the Kimber wins hands down.
What's the factory trigger pull on yours? It was 5.5lbs on the Kimber I was shooting (RCBS trigger guage) and 2.5 and 1.5 lbs respectively on the other rifles.
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So what is better. A Savage or CZ?
Isn't the Savage just an old Lakefield MkII with a new trigger and stock?
Isn't the Savage just an old Lakefield MkII with a new trigger and stock?
Skeetgunner,
I'm not sure what the trigger pull is on mine. I'd guess less than 3. Most likely 2.5 to 3. More importantly the trigger is very smooth and crisp.
I'm not saying that the Savage and CZ don't shoot. Everyone knows they do. As we all know the action, bedding, barrell and ammunition all play an important part in the accuracy equation. Some shoot better than others, and some shoot certain ammo very well while shooting other ammo poorly. There
s variation within every rifle made.
For me I want the whole package. I tend not to buy, use then sell on. I buy once and keep it. Fit and finish are important to me. This is a collection.
Kimber, Cooper, Anschutz, the Winchester 52 etc appeal to me. The CZ I considered but it just doesn't do much for me. I wanted the Savage thumbhole 17hmr really badley when it first came out. I was ready to order one right away. Then I went to my local gun shop and pawed over it. I didn't buy one. The fit/finish looked cheap to me. My Ruger K10/22T is the lowest quality firearm I own and it's fit/finish was far superior to the Savage.
I consider it cheaper to buy the Kimber at just over $1000 without having to ever change the stock, free float the barrel, bed the action or have a trigger job done on it. Plus it's not the type of rifle I'll be selling later, so I don't lose out on the resale. Now another thing to consider. Ok, your CZ 453 only costs around $600 (I believe that's about the current price), but... the scope, rings, base etc will also be around the same amount as the higher priced rifles. Which can easily surpass the cost of the actual rifle, depending on how high quality you go. In other words the initial cost of the rifle is only one aspect to it, and possibly not the most important. In the long run less expensive rifles can end up costing the same as the higher priced ones.
I'm not sure what the trigger pull is on mine. I'd guess less than 3. Most likely 2.5 to 3. More importantly the trigger is very smooth and crisp.
I'm not saying that the Savage and CZ don't shoot. Everyone knows they do. As we all know the action, bedding, barrell and ammunition all play an important part in the accuracy equation. Some shoot better than others, and some shoot certain ammo very well while shooting other ammo poorly. There
s variation within every rifle made.
For me I want the whole package. I tend not to buy, use then sell on. I buy once and keep it. Fit and finish are important to me. This is a collection.
Kimber, Cooper, Anschutz, the Winchester 52 etc appeal to me. The CZ I considered but it just doesn't do much for me. I wanted the Savage thumbhole 17hmr really badley when it first came out. I was ready to order one right away. Then I went to my local gun shop and pawed over it. I didn't buy one. The fit/finish looked cheap to me. My Ruger K10/22T is the lowest quality firearm I own and it's fit/finish was far superior to the Savage.
I consider it cheaper to buy the Kimber at just over $1000 without having to ever change the stock, free float the barrel, bed the action or have a trigger job done on it. Plus it's not the type of rifle I'll be selling later, so I don't lose out on the resale. Now another thing to consider. Ok, your CZ 453 only costs around $600 (I believe that's about the current price), but... the scope, rings, base etc will also be around the same amount as the higher priced rifles. Which can easily surpass the cost of the actual rifle, depending on how high quality you go. In other words the initial cost of the rifle is only one aspect to it, and possibly not the most important. In the long run less expensive rifles can end up costing the same as the higher priced ones.
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skeetgunner
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Hey I hear ya! I don't even think you're the exception to the rule, most guys are like that. Its just not enough to keep a product line afloat.
The Savage Mark II G or F is an old Lakefield design with a new accutrigger. The Mark II FV, FTV, BV, BTVS and the 93 series are all new designs with laminate or synthetic stocks, heavy barrels with target crowns and accutriggers. Still made in Lakefield.
I have both (actually the CZ452 lux is for sale) and prefer the fit (of gun to me) of the Savage BV and BVTS to the CZ. The trigger works for me, and I like the weight and balance of the barrel countour better. Plus, buying firearms made in Canada (even if made by a US company) just works for me.
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Anschutz, Cooper Arms, CZ, all perform and look good. My CZ American in 17 HMR shoots .2" groups at 25yds regularly, and 1" at 100yds.
> Don't worry, if you want to spend $1000+++ on a .22, Anschutz sells LOTS to suit almost every desire, niche, 'need'......want.....[/QUOTE]
Yep.
