No4 MK1 stamped drill practice value

timberhunter

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Hi Guys

Quick question about the value of this gun.
I don't have time to take pictures but would rate it overall at 80%
The rifle is stamped drill practice and on the left side of the receiver is stamped US Property.
All numbers matching.
I realise it was made by savage. But was wondering if they have any value.
Enfields are just not my bag.
Thanks in advance.
 
If it was stamped DP that means that it is unsafe for service and relegated for drill use. If, as greyman asks, it is on the receiver over the chamber, I'd think twice about shooting it. But that is just me.
 
If its only on the buttstock and no other place on the metal then maybe the buttstock has been previously swapped. I have 2 No4 longbranches that are marked DP. The buttstock is marked DP as well as the receiver over the chamber. Then under the wood the chamber has been drilled and a pin has been welded through to not allow a round to be chambered.
 
DP is an in between inspection stage - not perfectly serviceable and not absolute scrap value. It failed some particular inspection, but was still "enough of a gun" to be kept for (duh) drill purposes.

You have a couple of choices. Find a No.4 gunsmith who has the gauges for headspace, barrel straightness, lockup bearing, etc. Have him thoroughly inspect for cracks or out of spec parts. Most things can be changed, but some things can't be fixed.

FWIW, I have a DP marked M1917 that was converted to .300WM. The conversion was so extensive I have no problems trusting it.
 
Thanks for the info guys.
It is stamped DP on the receiver and the barrel.
We will take it to the gun show and flog it off cheap. It was used to shoot deer with. But it is what it is. And as I said before they are not my thing anyways.
 
A lot of perfectly good rifles were marked DP (DRILL PURPOSES) simply because they needed drill rifles at that time and all they had on hand were combat rifles.

Drill rifles were maintained to a lower standard. Bolts tended to remain with actions, but boltheads might be changed-out. A firing-pin might get the tip chipped and still be usable.... as a drill rifle. The muzzle might get a bash which would require work; it didn't matter if the rifle was a DP.

But when 'push' came to 'shove', lots and lots of DP rifles were sent to the Armourers and put back into combat condition and used and used and used.

The problem was that the problem (if any: remember, lots were DP'd just because they wanted drill rifles, especially after the FAL came in) might be fixed, but that marking didn't just wipe off.

An example: I shoot a DP rifle regularly. It was built in 1907, rebuilt in 1924, DP's likely during War Two and scrapped in the 1950s. I bought it in 1965, rebuilt it and I have been shooting it ever since, albeit no longer with Service loads out of respect for its age.

By the time the Number 4 was in universal Service, a new set of markings had come in, the Z series. The worst of these was ZF, PAINTED in letters an inch and a half to 2 inches high, on the butt. THIS marking is a death sentence for the rifle; it means that the rifle has a problem which cannot be cured short of FACTORY level. That usually means cannibalisation of the rifle and destruction of the Body (receiver) and other damaged parts.

But a simple DP does NOT mean that the rifle is junk, even though it CAN mean that.

Mainly, it means "Check carefully before attempting to shoot".
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Many were stamped DP just because they were obsolete in the system. In the main system or territorial army the arms were class one but when they were declared obsolete many in the main system were just marked DP and relegated to secondary use such as cadets or native service. I would however have it checked out with the proper gauges. If it is marked EY/2 then you have to really consider if your life is worth firing it at all.
 
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