No4 MK1 "T" Sniper rifles

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I currently own a 1945 BSA with a No32 MK3 scope that is all matching including the bracket. I've done a limited amount of accuracy testing first with softpoint ammo and got about 3" groups with it. I then used IVI fairly current ball ammo and got my groups down to about 2". These groups were shot at 100yds and were 3 shot groups. I have not tried to work up a specific load yet and need to do more testing.
Those who own English or Longbranch manufactured T's.....what has been your best groupings at the range???? I find the inverted post not the best refined aiming point for paper shooting bearing in mind that the scope was not designed for paper targets.
Fellow Enfield sniper owners......your input would be appreciated.
Thanks.
 
From my experience with No4 MkI T rifles they are not the precision pieces that many folks believe. Your rifle isn't particularly different from most. Also, there may be other issues that should be addressed, such as the ways (bedding). These rifles are also extremely ammo fussy and the scopes mounted on them have a lot of parallax depending on the distance you're shooting.

Most shoot between 2-3 inches with most ammo. The odd one will actually deliver the odd MOA group consistently but it will be the exception rather than the norm.
 
OP - have you tried it at 200? 100 isn't a great distance for any 303, the rifles were really designed to shoot at longer distances. Also, try flat based bullets, it makes a difference if the gun was ever shot using corrosive ammo - which most were.
 
I have shot one inch 3 rd groups at 100 yds with my No4 T ,1945 BSA and matching scope
using S & B ,FMJ 174 grain .Guess I got lucky
I have read this sniper rifle tends to really shoot better at longer ranges like 400/500 on
I use 6 oclock hold with pointer tip
 
I have not shot it at 200 other than at some metal gongs and no I have not tried flat based bullets. The bore on my "T" is as good as it gets!!!! I do realize that these are not precision instruments comparatively speaking, rifles have come a long way since then but it performed it's duty well and from what I have read it was as tough as nails including the No 32 scopes they were issued with. Hey I'm a Canadian Ranger here in the Yukon and we are still issued Enfields, most of our exercises are in the dead of winter and they are a tough old warhorse!!!
enefgee said:
OP - have you tried it at 200? 100 isn't a great distance for any 303, the rifles were really designed to shoot at longer distances. Also, try flat based bullets, it makes a difference if the gun was ever shot using corrosive ammo - which most were.
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The accuracy standard for the No4 T was actually not that high. I have a copy of the Cdn Army EMEI for the rifle which specifies the standard. The manual is packed away for renos right now, but I think I've quoted it several times in past threads on the No4 T.
 
R1200GS said:
Your rifle may benefit from a visit to an armour who is at least as old as the rifle and has Lee experience.
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It is not easy to find an old smith that has worked on Enfields.....I collect Enfields and would be very interested in finding a reputable, honest and skilled gunsmith who not only can correctly set up a fore-stock for a No4MK1 but also collimate a No32 scope to a rifle. Many of the old skilled fellows that have worked on Enfields have passed on.
 
Like Triaq said above, Leave it as is, having had a couple dozen of them, some are more accurate than others, they were far from a precision rifle. It was not meant to be a 100 yd target rifle
 
~Angel~ has taken her No.4(T)'s out to 500 meters with reasonable accuracy knocking down 12" steel plates for the first few shots, at least until the barrel heats up against the wood.

There's a few related range videos in The Screening Room (click here).

WWII Milsurp Sniper Rifles at 400 Meters (click here) http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=839

Milsurp Sniper Rifles at 500 Meters (click here)http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=882

This is some fun video, which a few Enfield collectors might enjoy. It shows members ~Angel~, Scott and Badger, shooting various sniper rifles from their personal collections, including a No.4(T) Turn up the volume so you can hear the sound of those plates dropping! Notice the sound delay between the time you see the plate fall, until you hear the metal PING sound return back up range to the shooter's position.

Engaging 12" Steel Plates and Figure 11 (Man) Targets at 400 and 500 Meters.

1944/45 British Enfield No.4(T) .303
1942 Russian 91/30 Mosin-Nagant 7.62x54r
1908 Swedish m/41b 6.5mm
Springfield M1A National Match 7.62x51
1909 Argentine Mauser 7.65x53

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Regards,
Doug
 
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